<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: RE: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online --> <!--X-From-R13: "Ybfgre, Dncu" <exbfgreNbevtva.rn.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 15:04:05 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: c=US%a=_%p=EA%l=MOLACH-970813150342Z-35143#molach,origin.ea.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, RE: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00517.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00519.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00572.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00570.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00518">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00518">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00518">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>RE: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: "'<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A>'" <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: RE: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Koster, Raph" <<A HREF="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 13 Aug 1997 10:03:42 -0500</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Tuesday, August 12, 1997 2:02 PM, clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote: > In <<A HREF="msg00399.html">c=US%a=_%p=EA%l=MOLACH-970805184845Z-15089#molach,origin.ea.com</A>>, > on 08/05/97 > at 07:17 PM, "Koster, Raph" <rkoster#origin,ea.com> said: > > >This is what we do in UO. We track raw materials and even abstract > >qualities (spookiness, for example, there's only a fixed amount of > >spooky stuff in the world). and have a fixed total in the world > >(well, fixed except that it increases as playerbase increases). We > >call these "resources" and we also base our AI on them. > > This presents an interesting idea: > Various players are doing their player stuff dealing with various > spooky items. > Bubba summons a massively spooky demon. > All the spooky items immediately/gradually dissappear from about the > other players? No, he simply fails to summon the demon. :) However, keep in mind that the zero-sum total is not kept on a global level, but rather locally in large regions. So whereas in a cemetery you may not be able to muster enough spookiness to summon the demon because it is all in place in the world already, in downtown, there's a lot of pent-up spookiness waiting to be expressed. Actually, though, this is a bad example, because summoning a demon comes from a different "bank" than the items (which have greater game permanence) do... a better example is, if the cemetery has some unused spookiness, that's a great reason for it to either attract creatures that like spookiness and seek to "consume" it (ravens, bats), or to spawn some creatures (assuming that they have food and shelter available in the locale as well (such as maybe some undead). [snip issue of keeping the zero-sum game elastic] We do something like this too. We call it "overdrawing the bank." :) -Raph </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00570" HREF="msg00570.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> clawrenc#cup,hp.com</li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00517.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New to this mailing list</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00519.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00572.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00570.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00518"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00518"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00598" HREF="msg00598.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Fri 15 Aug 1997, 06:31 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00521" HREF="msg00521.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong>, Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Wed 13 Aug 1997, 20:19 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00548" HREF="msg00548.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Thu 14 Aug 1997, 06:25 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00572" HREF="msg00572.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 14 Aug 1997, 21:21 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00518" HREF="msg00518.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Wed 13 Aug 1997, 15:04 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00570" HREF="msg00570.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 14 Aug 1997, 21:11 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00595" HREF="msg00595.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Fri 15 Aug 1997, 06:05 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00606" HREF="msg00606.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Fri 15 Aug 1997, 16:56 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00268" HREF="msg00268.html">Mail not getting to the list</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Tue 29 Jul 1997, 22:11 GMT </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>