<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online --> <!--X-From-R13: pynjerapNphc.uc.pbz --> <!--X-Date: Tue, 12 Aug 1997 23:18:21 +0000 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199708122316.QAA12414#xsvr3,cup.hp.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: c=US%a=_%p=EA%l=MOLACH-970805184845Z-15089#molach,origin.ea.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00501.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00503.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00409.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00483.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00502">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00502">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00502">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 12 Aug 97 16:10:45 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-to</em>: <A HREF="mailto:claw#null,net">claw#null,net</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> In <<A HREF="msg00399.html">c=US%a=_%p=EA%l=MOLACH-970805184845Z-15089#molach,origin.ea.com</A>>, on 08/05/97 at 07:17 PM, "Koster, Raph" <rkoster#origin,ea.com> said: >This is what we do in UO. We track raw materials and even abstract >qualities (spookiness, for example, there's only a fixed amount of >spooky stuff in the world). and have a fixed total in the world >(well, fixed except that it increases as playerbase increases). We >call these "resources" and we also base our AI on them. This presents an interesting idea: Various players are doing their player stuff dealing with various spooky items. Bubba summons a massively spooky demon. All the spooky items immediately/gradually dissappear from about the other players? I've been beating my head against this sort of null-sum game limitation in some of my ecology/economy models I've been messing with (see recent posts). The result was to keep the zero sum, but to make the total quantity elastic. It will tend towards a set value, but can and will deviate as the game pushes and pulls at it, with increasing deviation becoming incresingly difficult/expensive (eg the quotas for particle manufacture increase). -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net (Contractor) Internet: coder#ibm,net ---------------(*) Internet: clawrenc#cup,hp.com ...Honorary Member Clan McFUD -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00399" HREF="msg00399.html">[MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Koster, Raph" <rkoster#origin,ea.com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00501.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] PirateMUD and CSL</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00503.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00409.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00483.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00502"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00502"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00515" HREF="msg00515.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Wed 13 Aug 1997, 06:30 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00541" HREF="msg00541.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user2,inficad.com">nightfall#user2,inficad.com</a>, Thu 14 Aug 1997, 03:25 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00710" HREF="msg00710.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong>, Alex Oren <a href="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</a>, Sun 24 Aug 1997, 10:53 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00409" HREF="msg00409.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Wed 06 Aug 1997, 13:28 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00502" HREF="msg00502.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Tue 12 Aug 1997, 23:18 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00483" HREF="msg00483.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Tue 12 Aug 1997, 06:06 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00489" HREF="msg00489.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong>, Richard Woolcock <a href="mailto:KaVir#dial,pipex.com">KaVir#dial,pipex.com</a>, Tue 12 Aug 1997, 17:21 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00512" HREF="msg00512.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Wed 13 Aug 1997, 06:14 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00568" HREF="msg00568.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 14 Aug 1997, 20:56 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>