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<LI><em>From</em>: Greg Munt <<A HREF="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk">greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk</A>></LI>
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On Sat, 9 Aug 1997, Nathan Yospe wrote:
> On Sat, 9 Aug 1997, Greg Munt wrote:
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> :Seperating the game into two is a possibility. However, this falls into
> :the 'two muds in one' trap. In some aspects, it can appear rather
> :contrived, and only existing as a means of attracting pure Socialisers.
>
> I suppose so. I never really thought of that as a bad thing... I have
> competitive chess and bridge, two competitive tetris style games, and
> various other online competitions worked into the shell, along with at
> least one (so far) mud and the chatrooms. The shell also accesses admin
> accounts, which are _not_ player accounts plus stuff... there are three
> kinds of admin account... the coder account is a protected access to the
> unix shell with its own source control system... the builder (admin level)
> account gives access to the game building facilities on several levels,
> ranging from the golem (essentially, build as character that points and
> redescribes objects) to the softcode source level editor...
Hmm. This is interesting. You seem to be developing some kind of virtual
OS, rather than a simple mud. Do you see the possibility of providing
more than one mud through this system as feasible? I think that the
competitive games do add something special to this. I guess I was
thinking purely of conventional OOC features from a stock TinyMUSH,
rather than something that is a fully-featured part of the software (I'm
reluctant to call it a 'game'). Do you see this sort of functionality as
becoming more popular? (I know that Neil Robertson is/was working on
something similar...)
> :The feature that you refer to, allowing OOC players to page IC players,
> :would that not disrupt the 'immersion'? If you are going to allow this,
> :you may as well integrate the two areas into one. I can see no effective
> :difference - and my unwillingness to integrate abstraction with
> :virtual pseudo-reality (and the resultant problems) was the motivation for
> :the original post.
>
> Pages can (of course) be blocked, and do not communicate any information,
> save that "(shell acount name) has paged you". There is no way to ID the
> in game id of whoever you have paged, as you are paging the shell acount.
> Its minimum disruptions... sort of like a "call me when you can" message
> when at work.
Sorry. I am used to the TinyMUD definition of 'page'. You don't know how much
it hurt, having to say that :)
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00439" HREF="msg00439.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The 'Socialiser' problem</A></strong>,
Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Sat 09 Aug 1997, 01:32 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00450" HREF="msg00450.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The 'Socialiser' problem</A></strong>,
Greg Munt <a href="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk">greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk</a>, Sat 09 Aug 1997, 17:52 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00451" HREF="msg00451.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The 'Socialiser' problem</A></strong>,
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sat 09 Aug 1997, 21:07 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00452" HREF="msg00452.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The 'Socialiser' problem</A></strong>,
Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Sat 09 Aug 1997, 22:05 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00463" HREF="msg00463.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The 'Socialiser' problem</A></strong>,
Greg Munt <a href="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk">greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk</a>, Mon 11 Aug 1997, 16:45 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00506" HREF="msg00506.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The 'Socialiser' problem</A></strong>,
Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Wed 13 Aug 1997, 02:47 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00442" HREF="msg00442.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The 'Socialiser' problem</A></strong>,
Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Sat 09 Aug 1997, 04:28 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00445" HREF="msg00445.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The 'Socialiser' problem</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00529" HREF="msg00529.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The 'Socialiser' problem</A></strong>,
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