<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features --> <!--X-From-R13: "Xba O. 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Lambert" <<A HREF="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 03:23:52 -0400</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> > From: Matt Chatterley <root#mpc,dyn.ml.org> > Subject: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features > > On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Jon A. Lambert wrote: > > > We will have imprisonment, trials and all that. If no one is on who > > can play judge, players rot in their cells until it's convenient. > > I don't by default plan on using players heavily inside the judging > process, though. > I'd be interested on your thoughts on legal systems. I've been thinking a detailed and interesting subgame could be played out in this arena. I've got some starting ideas and will post some of these when I get back from holiday. :) > > Wiznet? Similar to Intermud[2|3]? > No Wiznet is much like a in-mud communication channel. You can turn it on or off and you can configure it for the types of events you would like to listen for. The server writes event messages to the wiznet channel. Events like when a character logs in, when a character is killed, an npc is killed, site banning, spamming attempts, character deletion, altering object attributes, etc. It was a nice administrator tool and I am adopting the concept. I'll be having two such channels, wiznet (events) and debugnet (method tracing). I'll also be using them to produce logfiles for later browsing. > > Theres an approach to staffing relevant to all games (but perhaps > prominent in RP intense games), whereby the powers you have for your > status are vastly less important than your responsibilities, which > involve people as much as, or more than code. > Exacto mundo. Promotion does not necessarily give in-game power. I guess a get a little distressed at the notion that you have powerless untrustworthy players on one hand and powerful trusted staff on the other. In this case, an accidental promotion of a major butthead has immediate and very bad consequences. I would guess that many muds have exactly this sort of power leap when promotion occurs. They very first level of promotion can be one where a player assumes the persona of very localized NPCs. Here is a player promotion scenario that is pretty conservative: The player is allowed to assume control of NPCs of the Grunt & Grime tavern. In particular the player can jump into One-eye McGillycuddy the barkeep, Boopsie the waitress, and Bruno the bouncer. The player has access to the cashbox and inventory has been taken. These NPCs are most likely less powerful than the player's own characters. They have the responsibility for playing them in-persona, interacting with other characters, etc. There's really not a lot of in-game power here and there's quite a bit more responsibility. Now should one enter the tavern and find it littered with the carnage of PC bodies, stacks of stolen boodle hidden under the bar, not a drop of liquor in the place, and the corpses of the tavern's employees at the bottom of Crator Lake, one might want to reconsider the promotion. There are a heck of a lot of different scenarios you can put interested players through before you give them teleport anywhere, slay anything, irritate anyone. JL </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00523" HREF="msg00523.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> clawrenc#cup,hp.com</li></ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00396" HREF="msg00396.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Matt Chatterley <root#mpc,dyn.ml.org></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00389.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Nation of shopkeepers</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00391.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Persistance/stability</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00387.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00396.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00390"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00390"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00377" HREF="msg00377.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Tue 05 Aug 1997, 00:01 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00376" HREF="msg00376.html">RE: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Mon 04 Aug 1997, 23:31 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00385" HREF="msg00385.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Tue 05 Aug 1997, 04:26 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00387" HREF="msg00387.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Tue 05 Aug 1997, 13:27 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00390" HREF="msg00390.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Tue 05 Aug 1997, 14:23 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00396" HREF="msg00396.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Wed 06 Aug 1997, 00:23 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00523" HREF="msg00523.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 13 Aug 1997, 23:03 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00549" HREF="msg00549.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Thu 14 Aug 1997, 06:33 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00579" HREF="msg00579.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] New Topic: Butthead features</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 14 Aug 1997, 21:55 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>