<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling --> <!--X-From-R13: ptNnzv-pt.UenlEntr.Sqzbagba.OP.QO (Quevf Uenl) --> <!--X-Date: from stimpy.globecomm.net [207.51.48.4] by in3.ibm.net id 870360573.72642-1 Thu Jul 31 14:49:33 1997 CUT --> <!--X-Message-Id: 9707311416.8a0i@ami-cg.GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00310.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00312.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00316.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00313.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00311">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00311">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00311">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</A> (Chris Gray)</LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 31 Jul 97 07:16:32 MST</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> [Shawn H:] :For the record, object methods appear the same to the DB as object :attributes. This makes changing a method the same as changing an :attribute--the C&C mechanism will take care of the contention where :Bubba is opening a door and Boffo is changing the code for opening :the door. Only the VM cares if the contents of an attribute actually :represent an attribute or a method. None of this is gospel in my :design yet, so I fully expect you to blast some holes in it :> Is it really necessary to be this careful with code changes? To me, the are outside of the scenario, in that they are not directly visible to players, or to NPC's, etc. So, it doesn't really matter when code changes actually take place. If an administrator is doing code changes on a running system, it seems the desire is for those changes to take effect "whenever they get there", otherwise that administrator would have to take great care to put manual flags around everything, to block out uses while the changes are being made. Often, changes to code will need changes to more than one piece of code - do you want to add provisions for manual locking? For the record, when a wizard edits a piece of code in AmigaMUD, as soon as the edited code is accepted by the server it becomes the one official copy of that code, and further uses will use it. I've made no provisions for delaying that switchover. Then again, my server is single-threaded, but all the discussion of multi-threaded execution didn't trigger any thoughts about protecting code changes. -- Chris Gray cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00320" HREF="msg00320.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Shawn Halpenny <malachai#iname,com></li></ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00313" HREF="msg00313.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Miroslav Silovic <silovic#mare,zesoi.fer.hr></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00310.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Virtual Chemistry</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00312.html">C&C and Event Rescheduling</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00316.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Tilting at the SimWindmill - was UO</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00313.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00311"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00311"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] DESIGN: The purpose of MUDding?</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00533" HREF="msg00533.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] DESIGN: The purpose of MUDding?</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 14 Aug 1997, 00:47 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00474" HREF="msg00474.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] DESIGN: The purpose of MUDding?</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Mon 11 Aug 1997, 22:20 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00475" HREF="msg00475.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] DESIGN: The purpose of MUDding?</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Mon 11 Aug 1997, 22:21 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00316" HREF="msg00316.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Tilting at the SimWindmill - was UO</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 31 Jul 1997, 23:44 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00311" HREF="msg00311.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Thu 31 Jul 1997, 21:49 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00313" HREF="msg00313.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling</A></strong>, Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#mare,zesoi.fer.hr">silovic#mare,zesoi.fer.hr</a>, Thu 31 Jul 1997, 23:14 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00320" HREF="msg00320.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling</A></strong>, Shawn Halpenny <a href="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</a>, Fri 01 Aug 1997, 03:35 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00468" HREF="msg00468.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Mon 11 Aug 1997, 22:02 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00309" HREF="msg00309.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Persistance/stability</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Thu 31 Jul 1997, 13:05 GMT </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>