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<LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</A></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 30 Jul 97 16:04:53 -0700</LI>
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In <<A HREF="msg00270.html">c=US%a=_%p=EA%l=MOLACH-970729155849Z-25578#molach,origin.ea.com</A>>,
on 07/29/97 at 06:04 PM, "Koster, Raph" <rkoster#origin,ea.com> said:
>On Monday, July 28, 1997 9:25 PM, Adam
>Wiggins[SMTP:nightfall#user2,inficad.com] wrote:
>Well, gosh, turn around and there you are discussing my game. :)
>Well, mine and a bunch of other folks' anyway. Hopefully nothing I
>say in this post will fall under our esteemed list-owner's rules
>about commercial mud boosterism; I'm just trying to respond within
>the context of the discussion, and self-critically as well.
Nahh. Perhaps I should clarify. Basic philosphy:
"Look at me!" school yard chest thumping is unwelcome. Generic
trolls, put-downs, and other forms of cowed get-backs are unwelcome.
Interested discussion of relevant points, good and bad, of systems are
especially welcome.
I expect you to be proud of your own systems. I expect that pride
to show in your posts. I would be dissappointed if that pride were
*not* shown in your posts. This does not mean "Better than you, so
Nyahh!" schoolyard bully pride, this means, "I think we did a really
incredibly good job, and here's why...". I realise that you are
unlikely to either point out or overly willingly admit the glaring
design flaws in your systems. I don't expect that of uour
non-commercial members until their noses are rubbed in it either.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00410" HREF="msg00410.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong>,
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Wed 06 Aug 1997, 13:32 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00288" HREF="msg00288.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong>,
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</a>, Wed 30 Jul 1997, 15:36 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00418" HREF="msg00418.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 07 Aug 1997, 00:21 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00295" HREF="msg00295.html">Worlds VS Games, etc {was GMuds, UO}</A></strong>,
Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Thu 31 Jul 1997, 03:37 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00298" HREF="msg00298.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 31 Jul 1997, 06:26 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00292" HREF="msg00292.html">[MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong>,
Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Thu 31 Jul 1997, 01:08 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00305" HREF="msg00305.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong>,
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Thu 31 Jul 1997, 10:01 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00307" HREF="msg00307.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong>,
Michael Hohensee <a href="mailto:michael#sparta,mainstream.net">michael#sparta,mainstream.net</a>, Thu 31 Jul 1997, 10:34 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00363" HREF="msg00363.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS/Ultima Online</A></strong>,
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user2,inficad.com">nightfall#user2,inficad.com</a>, Mon 04 Aug 1997, 07:55 GMT
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