<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS. --> <!--X-From-R13: [ngg Qunggreyrl <ebbgNzcp.qla.zy.bet> --> <!--X-Date: from stimpy.globecomm.net [207.51.48.4] by in1.ibm.net id 870243768.39084-1 Wed Jul 30 06:22:48 1997 CUT --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.LNX.3.96.970730071840.133A-100000#mpc,dyn.ml.org --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199707291707.KAA09302#xsvr3,cup.hp.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00282.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00284.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00271.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00284.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00283">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00283">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00283">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Matt Chatterley <<A HREF="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 07:21:26 +0000 (GMT)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:neddy#itl,net">neddy#itl,net</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Tue, 29 Jul 1997 clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote: > In <<A HREF="msg00264.html">199707290933.CAA02081#user2,inficad.com</A>>, on 07/29/97 > at 02:25 AM, Adam Wiggins <nightfall#user2,inficad.com> said: > > Re: What is needed to make a MUD > > >...At the very least you need > >something where you can choose a lot of options to personalize your > >character, then have that character use those abilities to grow, > >change, and learn new abilities, all of which are 'remembered' by the > >game. This can include anything from your skill with long blades to > >scars to your character's birthday. > > This would imply that simplistic level based MUDs with no character > customisation outside of name, level, inventory, and possibly current > HP value are not MUDs. (cf MUD2, Shades, most Abers, etc). Most relatively modern servers allow far more than this though - perhaps a progressive definition. I do still maintain (pretty much for the same reasons) that the real 'key point' of the definition of a mud lies within level of interactivity with the environment itself. For instance, consider the 'emote' commands on a vast number of games (all games have some form of this somewhere, now, surely?). You could do :grins (or however the syntax is structured), or :sulks. Very simple expressional terms - but unavailable in many things people would protest as 'muds'. Of course, you can take this tack with a number of commands - get, drop, look [at] <object> and so forth. Regards, -Matt Chatterley <A HREF="http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html">http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html</A> "Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them." -George Orwell </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00300" HREF="msg00300.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> clawrenc#cup,hp.com</li></ul> <li><strong><A NAME="00284" HREF="msg00284.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Jeff Kesselman <jeffk#tenetwork,com></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00271" HREF="msg00271.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> clawrenc#cup,hp.com</LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00282.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Mail not getting to the list</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00284.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00271.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00284.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00283"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00283"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>First Muds - newbie magic?</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00276" HREF="msg00276.html">First Muds - newbie magic?</A></strong>, Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Wed 30 Jul 1997, 04:36 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00299" HREF="msg00299.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] First Muds - newbie magic?</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 31 Jul 1997, 06:28 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00375" HREF="msg00375.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] First Muds - newbie magic?</A></strong>, Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Mon 04 Aug 1997, 18:57 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00271" HREF="msg00271.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 30 Jul 1997, 00:09 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00283" HREF="msg00283.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Wed 30 Jul 1997, 13:22 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00284" HREF="msg00284.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Wed 30 Jul 1997, 13:29 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00300" HREF="msg00300.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 31 Jul 1997, 06:38 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00286" HREF="msg00286.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</a>, Wed 30 Jul 1997, 14:11 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00352" HREF="msg00352.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></strong>, Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Sun 03 Aug 1997, 18:25 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>