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<LI><em>From</em>: Matt Chatterley &lt;<A HREF="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</A>&gt;</LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 30 Jul 1997 07:21:26 +0000 (GMT)</LI>
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On Tue, 29 Jul 1997 clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote:

&gt; In &lt;<A HREF="msg00264.html">199707290933.CAA02081#user2,inficad.com</A>&gt;, on 07/29/97 
&gt;    at 02:25 AM, Adam Wiggins &lt;nightfall#user2,inficad.com&gt; said:
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&gt; Re: What is needed to make a MUD
&gt; 
&gt; &gt;...At the very least you need
&gt; &gt;something where you can choose a lot of options to personalize your
&gt; &gt;character, then have that character use those abilities to grow,
&gt; &gt;change, and learn new abilities, all of which are 'remembered' by the
&gt; &gt;game.  This can include anything from your skill with long blades to
&gt; &gt;scars to your character's birthday.
&gt; 
&gt; This would imply that simplistic level based MUDs with no character
&gt; customisation outside of name, level, inventory, and possibly current
&gt; HP value are not MUDs.  (cf MUD2, Shades, most Abers, etc).

Most relatively modern servers allow far more than this though - perhaps a
progressive definition. I do still maintain (pretty much for the same
reasons) that the real 'key point' of the definition of a mud lies within
level of interactivity with the environment itself. For instance, consider
the 'emote' commands on a vast number of games (all games have some form
of this somewhere, now, surely?). You could do :grins (or however the
syntax is structured), or :sulks. Very simple expressional terms - but
unavailable in many things people would protest as 'muds'.

Of course, you can take this tack with a number of commands - get, drop,
look [at] &lt;object&gt; and so forth.

Regards,
	-Matt Chatterley
	<A  HREF="http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html">http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html</A>
"Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's
	mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them." -George Orwell


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<LI><STRONG>First Muds - newbie magic?</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00276" HREF="msg00276.html">First Muds - newbie magic?</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00299" HREF="msg00299.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  First Muds - newbie magic?</A></strong>, 
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 31 Jul 1997, 06:28 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00375" HREF="msg00375.html">Re: [MUD-Dev]  First Muds - newbie magic?</A></strong>, 
Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Mon 04 Aug 1997, 18:57 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00271" HREF="msg00271.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></strong>, 
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 30 Jul 1997, 00:09 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00283" HREF="msg00283.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></strong>, 
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Wed 30 Jul 1997, 13:22 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00284" HREF="msg00284.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></strong>, 
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Wed 30 Jul 1997, 13:29 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00300" HREF="msg00300.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></strong>, 
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 31 Jul 1997, 06:38 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00286" HREF="msg00286.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></strong>, 
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</a>, Wed 30 Jul 1997, 14:11 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00352" HREF="msg00352.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Graphic MUDS.</A></strong>, 
Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Sun 03 Aug 1997, 18:25 GMT
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