<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public? --> <!--X-From-R13: pynjerapNphc.uc.pbz --> <!--X-Date: from scipio.globecomm.net [207.51.48.12] by in5.ibm.net id 869263264.49162-1 Fri Jul 18 22:01:04 1997 CUT --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199707182159.OAA05463#xsvr3,cup.hp.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 33CFD425.167EB0E7#iname,com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00202.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00204.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00202.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00173.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00203">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00203">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00203">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 18 Jul 97 14:55:48 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-to</em>: <A HREF="mailto:claw#null,net">claw#null,net</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> In <<A HREF="msg00202.html">33CFD425.167EB0E7#iname,com</A>>, on 07/18/97 at 01:45 PM, Shawn Halpenny <malachai#iname,com> said: >clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote: >> Without the last rule "bubba#site,dom" would become "bubba&site,com". >> With the last rule it would become, "site,dom&bubba". The reason for >> this approach as versus BrandonG's approach of nuking the entire >> UserID section of the email address is that it remains fully human >> readable and human usable as is, and no sematic content is lost. Only >> machine processing abilities are lost. <<The choice of replacement >> characters is not cast in stone. I could also see doing a >> "bubba(at)site,dom".>> >> >> The address munging pattern would be posted on the web site. >> >> <<Yes, it is still machine parsable. I suspect the odds however of >> a web-scanner unmunging and parsing the above forms and extracting >> valid email addresses is proximate to zero.>> >If the details of the munging are publicly available (and the pretty >much have to be), a determined idiot could conjure something up >easily. I suppose a determined idiot could work around almost any >scheme, though. That's pretty well true of any pattern I devise short of obliterating the entire email address. Given dedication and a half-functioning neurone, it can be reversed. My bet is that the (comparitively) paltry membership of the list will not be a tempting enough target for a web scanner. Who is going to special case for merely a few score addresses? > ...Side note: would spelling out the '@' and the '.' >make it any less parsable? Possibly, but doubt its effectiveness. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net (Contractor) Internet: coder#ibm,net ---------------(*) Internet: clawrenc#cup,hp.com ...Honorary Member Clan McFUD -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00202" HREF="msg00202.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Shawn Halpenny <malachai#iname,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00202.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00204.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00202.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00173.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Socrates - A brief look at AI(?)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00203"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00203"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00177" HREF="msg00177.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Fri 18 Jul 1997, 11:41 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00197" HREF="msg00197.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Sat 19 Jul 1997, 02:32 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00199" HREF="msg00199.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sat 19 Jul 1997, 02:50 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00202" HREF="msg00202.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></strong>, Shawn Halpenny <a href="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</a>, Sat 19 Jul 1997, 03:38 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00203" HREF="msg00203.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Sat 19 Jul 1997, 05:01 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00173" HREF="msg00173.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Socrates - A brief look at AI(?)</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Fri 18 Jul 1997, 06:24 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00171" HREF="msg00171.html">Evil coders from beyond the grave</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Fri 18 Jul 1997, 03:36 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00180" HREF="msg00180.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Evil coders from beyond the grave</A></strong>, Orion Henry <a href="mailto:ohenry#sdcc10,ucsd.edu">ohenry#sdcc10,ucsd.edu</a>, Fri 18 Jul 1997, 13:53 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00194" HREF="msg00194.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Evil coders from beyond the grave</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sat 19 Jul 1997, 02:24 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>