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<LI><em>From</em>: Shawn Halpenny <<A HREF="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 16:37:57 -0400</LI>
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clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote:
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> Proposal:
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> Please comment.
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> A web site is established which details the list, its purpose,
> policies and other related data. Archives of list traffic are made
> available untouched to list members only via email request
> (standardised format).
Acceptable if not all archives are publicly available and as long as a
list-published method of obtaining them is provided (perhaps as part of the
standard invitation text).
> Copies of list traffic are available on the
> web site with the email addresses munged as follows:
>
> -- All period characters (".") replaced with commas (",")
> -- All at characters ("@") replaced with asterixes ("&").
> -- Order of the userID and site/domain reversed (I'm not
> keen on this one)
>
> Without the last rule "bubba#site,dom" would become "bubba&site,com".
> With the last rule it would become, "site,dom&bubba". The reason for
> this approach as versus BrandonG's approach of nuking the entire
> UserID section of the email address is that it remains fully human
> readable and human usable as is, and no sematic content is lost. Only
> machine processing abilities are lost. <<The choice of replacement
> characters is not cast in stone. I could also see doing a
> "bubba(at)site,dom".>>
>
> The address munging pattern would be posted on the web site.
>
> <<Yes, it is still machine parsable. I suspect the odds however of
> a web-scanner unmunging and parsing the above forms and extracting
> valid email addresses is proximate to zero.>>
If the details of the munging are publicly available (and the pretty much
have to be), a determined idiot could conjure something up easily.
I suppose a determined idiot could work around almost any scheme, though.
> <<BrandonG and others! Would this satisfy you?>>
This is fine. Side note: would spelling out the '@' and the '.'
make it any less parsable? I doubt many web-scanners have the
ability to pick out what looks like a normal sentence:
bubba#site,dom
||
bubba at site dot dom.
This is not an entirely serious side note, but I had seen it done in
someone's sig somewhere long, long ago.
> I am not entirely happy with making all archives (even munged
> archives) publicly available. I expect that I'll make only a fraction
> of the total list traffic available to public browsers. (First guess:
> only the digests for the same day of the week as the current day will
> be readable at the web site)
>
> The web site and associated list details are publicised on
> r.g.m.announce. The ban on mentioning the list in other media is
> removed.
Fine too.
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Shawn Halpenny
"I got food poisoning today. I don't know when I'll use it."
- Steven Wright
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<LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Evil coders from beyond the grave</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00196" HREF="msg00196.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Evil coders from beyond the grave</A></strong>,
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sat 19 Jul 1997, 02:31 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00177" HREF="msg00177.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Fri 18 Jul 1997, 11:41 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00197" HREF="msg00197.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Sat 19 Jul 1997, 02:32 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00199" HREF="msg00199.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></strong>,
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sat 19 Jul 1997, 02:50 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00202" HREF="msg00202.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></strong>,
Shawn Halpenny <a href="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</a>, Sat 19 Jul 1997, 03:38 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00203" HREF="msg00203.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Sat 19 Jul 1997, 05:01 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00173" HREF="msg00173.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Socrates - A brief look at AI(?)</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Fri 18 Jul 1997, 06:24 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="00171" HREF="msg00171.html">Evil coders from beyond the grave</A></strong>,
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Fri 18 Jul 1997, 03:36 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00180" HREF="msg00180.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Evil coders from beyond the grave</A></strong>,
Orion Henry <a href="mailto:ohenry#sdcc10,ucsd.edu">ohenry#sdcc10,ucsd.edu</a>, Fri 18 Jul 1997, 13:53 GMT
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