<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public? --> <!--X-From-R13: [ngg Qunggreyrl <ebbgNzcp.qla.zy.bet> --> <!--X-Date: from babe.globecomm.net [207.51.48.8] by in12.ibm.net id 869255437.38276-1 Fri Jul 18 19:50:37 1997 CUT --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.LNX.3.96.970718204718.242H-100000#mpc,dyn.ml.org --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199707181931.MAA01870#xsvr3,cup.hp.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00198.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00200.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00197.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00202.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00199">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00199">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00199">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Matt Chatterley <<A HREF="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 18 Jul 1997 20:49:51 +0000 (GMT)</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:neddy#itl,net">neddy#itl,net</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Fri, 18 Jul 1997 clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote: > Proposal: > > Please comment. Rightydokie. > A web site is established which details the list, its purpose, > policies and other related data. Archives of list traffic are made > available untouched to list members only via email request > (standardised format). Copies of list traffic are available on the > web site with the email addresses munged as follows: Sounds goodly to me.. > -- All period characters (".") replaced with commas (",") > -- All at characters ("@") replaced with asterixes ("&"). > -- Order of the userID and site/domain reversed (I'm not > keen on this one) Both the first two are good (keeping it human readable but not readily machineable.. at least not without effort). [Snip] > The address munging pattern would be posted on the web site. > > <<Yes, it is still machine parsable. I suspect the odds however of > a web-scanner unmunging and parsing the above forms and extracting > valid email addresses is proximate to zero.>> > > <<BrandonG and others! Would this satisfy you?>> > This satisfies me, at least, but I'm not too fussed on giving out email address etc to begin with - the spammers already have me down. :P > I am not entirely happy with making all archives (even munged > archives) publicly available. I expect that I'll make only a fraction > of the total list traffic available to public browsers. (First guess: > only the digests for the same day of the week as the current day will > be readable at the web site) Something of the sort, at least to start with - perhaps going with that days digests, as you suggest, is a good plan. It sounds fine, at any rate. Then genuinely interested parties can read up. > The web site and associated list details are publicised on > r.g.m.announce. The ban on mentioning the list in other media is > removed. Right. > I'm still debating how to handle membership. Perhaps something akin to the way institutions such as the IEE handle such things. Applications (giving certain information) are freely accepted, but you must be 'undersigned' by a given number of existing members, to be passed. Regards, -Matt Chatterley <A HREF="http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html">http://user.itl.net/~neddy/index.html</A> "Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one's mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them." -George Orwell </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00197" HREF="msg00197.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> clawrenc#cup,hp.com</LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00198.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Source data on Crossbow</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00200.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] C&C and Event Rescheduling</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00197.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00202.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00199"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00199"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00185" HREF="msg00185.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Evil coders from beyond the grave</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sat 19 Jul 1997, 00:18 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00196" HREF="msg00196.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Evil coders from beyond the grave</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sat 19 Jul 1997, 02:31 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00177" HREF="msg00177.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Fri 18 Jul 1997, 11:41 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00197" HREF="msg00197.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Sat 19 Jul 1997, 02:32 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00199" HREF="msg00199.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sat 19 Jul 1997, 02:50 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00202" HREF="msg00202.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></strong>, Shawn Halpenny <a href="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</a>, Sat 19 Jul 1997, 03:38 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00203" HREF="msg00203.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Sat 19 Jul 1997, 05:01 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00173" HREF="msg00173.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Socrates - A brief look at AI(?)</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Fri 18 Jul 1997, 06:24 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00171" HREF="msg00171.html">Evil coders from beyond the grave</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Fri 18 Jul 1997, 03:36 GMT </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>