<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Socrates - A brief look at AI(?) --> <!--X-From-R13: "Xba O. Znzoreg" <wyflfvapNvk.argpbz.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: from babe.globecomm.net [207.51.48.8] by in4.ibm.net id 869181840.54862-1 Thu Jul 17 23:24:00 1997 CUT --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199707172323.SAA00190@dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Socrates - A brief look at AI(?)</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00172.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00174.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00203.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00171.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00173">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00173">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00173">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Socrates - A brief look at AI(?)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Socrates - A brief look at AI(?)</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Jon A. Lambert" <<A HREF="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 17 Jul 1997 19:24:22 -0400</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> > From: Huibai <ashen#pixi,com> > To: mud-dev#null,net > Subject: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public? > Date: Wednesday, July 16, 1997 7:21 PM > > > *note* : I'm currently studying the philosophic dialogues, > as written by Plato, between Socrates and the sophists, > so the following ideas are my musings coming from there :) > Oh I couldn't resist. Feel free to drop my an email Hubai, if you wish to muse or provide observations on this fellow. I'm a big fan of Socrates. So much so that he has become the basis of a crude and irritating AI engine. What I have done is taken the commonly available Eliza code and added the ability of it to remember the last pronouncement issued with the speaker. In addition I've provided a checkpointing and backtracking mechanism within the database of arguments. While being somewhat mindless, it does capture the flavor of the Socratic argument. It's currently configured with data from Charmides, a debate about true love and obsession. I hope to add additional argument threads to him. It is a painstaking process and is not really AI at all. Perhaps it more resembles an infant expert system. What Socrates essential does is ask questions of the speaker in the "traditional" manner. Socrates of course attempts to elicit and goad the "proper" answers ahead of time. These are usually yes or no. Sometimes a multiple choice. Any player attempts at deviation from this format cause Socrates to go into a tirade that one must follow his lead or all discussion will be unproductive. Should a player answer incorrectly, Socrates chides the player for their ignorance and encourages them to bear with him while he attempts a new angle. A short backtrack is taken. Should the player attempt once again to avoid the inevitable a much longer treck backward is taken. From these backtrack points, a new argument thread is chosen. Right now these are pretty limited given the scenario. The end result is that Socrates is always correct and the hopefully infuriating. JL </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00172.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Public Archives (META: Making the list public?)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00174.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "short" Introductory Message (fwd)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00203.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00171.html">Evil coders from beyond the grave</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00173"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00173"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00197" HREF="msg00197.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Sat 19 Jul 1997, 02:32 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00199" HREF="msg00199.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sat 19 Jul 1997, 02:50 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00202" HREF="msg00202.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></strong>, Shawn Halpenny <a href="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</a>, Sat 19 Jul 1997, 03:38 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00203" HREF="msg00203.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Sat 19 Jul 1997, 05:01 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00173" HREF="msg00173.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Socrates - A brief look at AI(?)</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Fri 18 Jul 1997, 06:24 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00171" HREF="msg00171.html">Evil coders from beyond the grave</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Fri 18 Jul 1997, 03:36 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00180" HREF="msg00180.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Evil coders from beyond the grave</A></strong>, Orion Henry <a href="mailto:ohenry#sdcc10,ucsd.edu">ohenry#sdcc10,ucsd.edu</a>, Fri 18 Jul 1997, 13:53 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00194" HREF="msg00194.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Evil coders from beyond the grave</A></strong>, Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Sat 19 Jul 1997, 02:24 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00182" HREF="msg00182.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Evil coders from beyond the grave</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</a>, Fri 18 Jul 1997, 22:50 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>