<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public? --> <!--X-From-R13: pbqreNvoz.arg --> <!--X-Date: from fabius.globecomm.net [207.51.48.6] by in12.ibm.net id 869033217.41490-1 Wed Jul 16 06:06:57 1997 CUT --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199707160606.GAA126152#out1,ibm.net --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199707160423.XAA11475#laurel,actlab.utexas.edu --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:coder#ibm,net"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00143.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00145.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00141.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00150.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00144">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00144">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00144">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 15 Jul 97 22:47:56 -0700</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On 15/07/97 at 09:31 PM, Cynbe ru Taren <cynbe#laurel,actlab.utexas.edu> said: >| For a variety of reasons and with considerable encouragement I'm >| considering taking the list public. >Presumably meaning a decline to normal signal to noise >ratios. *sigh* Be assured that I will, if anything, take an even harder line than I have to date on preserving the high signal rate. As I have stated afore: This list is *NOT* an email equivalant of the r.g.m.* newsgroups. This list is *not* a public resource. It is a private offering which I make available on my own oft stated terms to the community. Abuse it, and lose it. Care for it, and keep it. My currently intended policy: 1 infraction == direct email warning 2 infractions within fortnight == public warning on list. 2 infractions within week == desubscribed from list. 3 infractions within week == banned from list for week. 4 infractions within month == banned from list for month. 5 infractions within 2 months == banned from list for year. Dependant on the severity of the problem and the prior good/bad behaviour of the individual in question, the above scale may be relaxed or accellerated as applicable. At the rough end heads need to be put on a pike as of step one. not step five. OTOH I'm willing to overlook slips by otherwise well valued members. My first priority is the achievment of the list's purposes (incl survival and success of the list). Part and parcel of that is keeping the signal to noise ratio high. Definition of infraction: Any action or post which I judge suficciently counter to the success or signal to noise ratio of the list, or which runs counter to the definition of the list topic as defined periodically on the list or in the list welcome message. >This is the only major mailing list I've been able >to justify staying on for this long. My goal is for the larger character of the list to remain unchanged. My own primary concerns on going public: 1) How much I'm going to have to moderate. 2) How much that moderation will detract from the list as a whole. 3) How many mail missiles will slip by (ie moderation after the fact). 4) How long it will take to establish the "list culture" in the new members. >Ah well. Life goes on :) Yeah. My current idea is to gradually start adding a few new guys with the common understanding that the list will go public at a known date in the future (say 3 months from now). Get them settled in, and then publicise the list. For the first month make the subscription process by application only (prospective member has to state why he wants to be on the list). By the second or third month, depending on how it goes, make membership open. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net ----------(*) Internet: coder#ibm,net ...Honourary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00141" HREF="msg00141.html">[MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Cynbe ru Taren <cynbe#laurel,actlab.utexas.edu></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00143.html">[MUD-Dev] R-trees &kin</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00145.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00141.html">[MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00150.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00144"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00144"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00143" HREF="msg00143.html">[MUD-Dev] R-trees &kin</A></strong>, Cynbe ru Taren <a href="mailto:cynbe#laurel,actlab.utexas.edu">cynbe#laurel,actlab.utexas.edu</a>, Wed 16 Jul 1997, 11:52 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00371" HREF="msg00371.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] R-trees &kin</A></strong>, Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Mon 04 Aug 1997, 16:05 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00142" HREF="msg00142.html">[MUD-Dev] Longbows and such.</A></strong>, Cynbe ru Taren <a href="mailto:cynbe#laurel,actlab.utexas.edu">cynbe#laurel,actlab.utexas.edu</a>, Wed 16 Jul 1997, 11:33 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00141" HREF="msg00141.html">[MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></strong>, Cynbe ru Taren <a href="mailto:cynbe#laurel,actlab.utexas.edu">cynbe#laurel,actlab.utexas.edu</a>, Wed 16 Jul 1997, 11:23 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00144" HREF="msg00144.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Wed 16 Jul 1997, 13:06 GMT </LI> </UL> <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00150" HREF="msg00150.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 17 Jul 1997, 01:35 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00169" HREF="msg00169.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Fri 18 Jul 1997, 00:49 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00162" HREF="msg00162.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] META: Making the list public?</A></strong>, Huibai <a href="mailto:ashen#pixi,com">ashen#pixi,com</a>, Thu 17 Jul 1997, 13:20 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00139" HREF="msg00139.html">META: Making the list public?</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 16 Jul 1997, 10:27 GMT </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>