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<LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</A> (Alex Oren)</LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Sun, 13 Jul 1997 13:21:23 GMT</LI>
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Marian wrote:
} [about ranged combat]
} > :I favor underpowered, then. A good archer will get in a third
} > :shot on a longe-range target before the ground is closed. The
} > :damage done is not more than melee damage, but is harder
} > :and less common to be protected against. The best of bowmen
} > :better also carry a close-combat weapon. Unless the target
} > :refuses their natural instincts to take cover or charge, they'll
} > :be in close-combat by the second volley in most cases.
}
} Most archers did. And they were typically protected by a line of in-
} fantery so they did have time to switch weapons. But their main use
} was to break up enemy charges of infantery and light cavalry who had
} only light armour that could be pierced by an arrow at a distance.
} Crossbows where short range weapons that took long to reload and did
} not carry far, but could pierce heavy cavalry armour at close range.
} Longbow was also much more accurate than crossbow.
} In a game longbows should be used for accurate firing at a distance
} but do relatively light damage and slow down rather than injure. But
} if you have mass combat then they would do considerable damage when
} you let arrows fly en masse. Crossbows on the other hand would do a
} lot of damage, even through heavy armour. But would require a long
} delay between shots, unless the bowman drops his weapon and switches
} to sword or mace.
} In either case to use ranged weapons some changes have to be made to
} the rooms as well. Everybody in a big room and let them sort out who
} is facing who doesn't work well here.
I remember a long debate on an AD&D newsgroup (when I still browsed it)
regarding the speed, range and damage of longbows and crossbows.
After what seemed to be a pretty thorough research of medieval arms, the
consensus reached was:
Crossbows are usually cocked with mechanical aids.
-> Longbow firing rate is higher.
-> Crossbows may be fired just as effectively by weak or injured persons.
Crossbows have stronger pull, flatter trajectory and heavier ammo.
-> Longbows have longer range.
-> Crossbows are more accurate.
-> Crossbows do more damage at short ranges (actually pierce HEAVY armor).
Crossbows are much easier to use.
-> It takes a long time to train a longbowman but every peasant can be
decent with a crossbow after practicing a couple of days.
Have fun,
Alex.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00122" HREF="msg00122.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Combat messages</A></strong>,
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</a>, Mon 14 Jul 1997, 08:32 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00370" HREF="msg00370.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Combat messages</A></strong>,
Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Mon 04 Aug 1997, 16:00 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00378" HREF="msg00378.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Combat messages</A></strong>,
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Tue 05 Aug 1997, 00:04 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00303" HREF="msg00303.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Combat</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 31 Jul 1997, 08:12 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00117" HREF="msg00117.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] not about pk anymore</A></strong>,
Alex Oren <a href="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</a>, Sun 13 Jul 1997, 20:21 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00121" HREF="msg00121.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] not about pk anymore</A></strong>,
Matt Chatterley <a href="mailto:root#mpc,dyn.ml.org">root#mpc,dyn.ml.org</a>, Mon 14 Jul 1997, 04:49 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00280" HREF="msg00280.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] not about pk anymore</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 30 Jul 1997, 07:04 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00093" HREF="msg00093.html">[MUD-Dev] Integrating PK</A></strong>,
Cynbe ru Taren <a href="mailto:cynbe#laurel,actlab.utexas.edu">cynbe#laurel,actlab.utexas.edu</a>, Thu 10 Jul 1997, 11:16 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00002" HREF="msg00002.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Supporting RP+PG</A></strong>,
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