<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Another Approach (was: Integrating PK) --> <!--X-From-R13: Penaqba Uvyyrfcvr <oenaqbaNebthrgenqre.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: from babe.globecomm.net [207.51.48.8] by in1.ibm.net id 867513269.35896-1 Sat Jun 28 15:54:29 1997 CUT --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.BSF.3.96.970628094325.7190B-100000#ice,cold.org --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199706280513.TAA01176#mail,pixi.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Another Approach (was: Integrating PK)</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:brandon#roguetrader,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01574.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01576.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01569.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01515.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01575">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01575">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01575">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Another Approach (was: Integrating PK)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Another Approach (was: Integrating PK)</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Brandon Gillespie <<A HREF="mailto:brandon#roguetrader,com">brandon#roguetrader,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sat, 28 Jun 1997 09:54:30 -0600 (MDT)</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Just some thoughts and opinions on this matter. My plans for an RPG mud include PK, but not in any incarnation I've seen so far. Basically, I'm going to make it as 'real' as possible within the world's context. With this in mind a player should be able to attack and/or kill ANYTHING, be it a tree or person. There is no distinction between NPCs and players, other than the fact that NPCs can cheat. Any time a 'person' is killed or even attacked within a lawful area (such as a city) the possibility will exist that an investigation will occur, just like in Real Life. So if Joe-Power decided to thump on Sue-Newbee, and kills her, the system will immediately begin an investigation, possibly even sending a few NPCs around for good measure ('invesigating of course'). Now, the system knows who really did it, so it'll have to pretend on the investigation. If the person took no means to disguise their identity it should be pretty easy to find out who they were (especially on a MUD with magic, where you can just throw off a quick post-cognition spell). All of these factors would be taken into account, and the investigation would be run by the system for a few days RPG time. The result of the investigation would be determined ahead of time, but could be changed by either an admin or possibly an informant who gould give more information in the case. The end result is: players can run and kill others, but there will be consequences--possibly even a long-term imprisonment if not execution. either way the player is punished by having their character terminated or taken out of action--and in a VR way that they cannot complain about because they knew of the reprecussions ahead of time. With this sort of system in mind I think PKing will essentially take care of itself (for the most part), just like it does in Real society. Sure, you will still have the muders far out in the woods which may go unsolved--but at that point the player should be more aware of running through less lawful areas alone. The appropriatness for this solution is rather world based--its great for my world, which is future/sci-fi/fantasy based (so both technology and magic can be brought into an investigation--magic helps make trials much shorter, or at least immediately incriminates the majority of stupid criminals). -Brandon Gillespie </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="01569" HREF="msg01569.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Integrating PK</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> "Huibai" <ashen#pixi,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01574.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Levels and XP</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01576.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] common server design</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01569.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Integrating PK</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01515.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Neighborhoods (was room-based v coord-based)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#01575"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#01575"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Integrating PK</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="01545" HREF="msg01545.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Integrating PK</A></strong>, Huibai <a href="mailto:ashen#pixi,com">ashen#pixi,com</a>, Fri 27 Jun 1997, 09:28 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01546" HREF="msg01546.html">[MUD-Dev] Integrating PK</A></strong>, Brandon Cline <a href="mailto:brandon#merlin,sedona.net">brandon#merlin,sedona.net</a>, Fri 27 Jun 1997, 11:34 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01556" HREF="msg01556.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Integrating PK</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Fri 27 Jun 1997, 21:48 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01569" HREF="msg01569.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Integrating PK</A></strong>, Huibai <a href="mailto:ashen#pixi,com">ashen#pixi,com</a>, Sat 28 Jun 1997, 12:13 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01575" HREF="msg01575.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Another Approach (was: Integrating PK)</A></strong>, Brandon Gillespie <a href="mailto:brandon#roguetrader,com">brandon#roguetrader,com</a>, Sat 28 Jun 1997, 22:54 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01515" HREF="msg01515.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Neighborhoods (was room-based v coord-based)</A></strong>, Brandon J. Rickman <a href="mailto:ashes#pc4,zennet.com">ashes#pc4,zennet.com</a>, Thu 26 Jun 1997, 11:18 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="01511" HREF="msg01511.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Rumours</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 26 Jun 1997, 10:11 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01522" HREF="msg01522.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Rumours</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Thu 26 Jun 1997, 14:02 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01537" HREF="msg01537.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Rumours</A></strong>, Shawn Halpenny <a href="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</a>, Thu 26 Jun 1997, 22:00 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>