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<LI><em>From</em>: Martin Keegan <<A HREF="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</A>></LI>
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On Tue, 24 Jun 1997 clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote:
> >On Wed, 18 Jun 1997 clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote:
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> >> Bubba of house X got special object Y.
> >>
> >> Therefore it is reasonable for Boffo of house X to later have
> >> Y despite being a newbie.
> >>
> >> How about abilities gamed by players? Did they cross reflect to other
> >> members of the house? I can also see this forming the basis of more
> >> interesting clan and political battles.
No - the abilities don't pass round to other players. All the players in a
house are separate entities, but they can share the benefits of their
house. Most of them tend to be the same human anyway. A house is like a
family.
> >YES! The clan stuff gets interesting. Running more than one house
> >will be disallowed, but if a house takes a newbie under its wing, and
> >the newbie starts to grow strong, he may eventually take over the
> >house when its original player leaves.
>
> I can also see a lot of interest value if you allow houses to recruit
> other players to be members of their house. You then, by extension,
> almost get the concept of a house as clan, with player characters as
> actively sought after and even contested resource for houses.
During the Eclipse discussions, this idea grew rapidly from a fun thought
experiment to a raging monster that had to be tamed to prevent it from
permeating every aspect of the game.
> This also opens the interesting spectre of a player character being a
> member of two houses, or even an honourary member of non-primary
The motivation for it was to deal with multi-charring, longevity and
advancement. Once you have non-primary membership of other houses, it gets
interesting
> houses. Add small doses of treachery, treason, and betrayal
> (guaranteed with human players, but also easy to stir up) and you have
> the beginnings of a real political system.
> >You've got the picture. BTW, Kill the Keegans was actually the name
> >of a VB game written in 1994 by someone who didn't like me much.
>
> Yup. I played it back when my then SO (she of the very short
> downtime) ran a Windows hawking BBS.
Scarily, I parsed SO as SysOp on the first pass. That downtime euphemism
is ... erm :) "Is the game down" - "No, it's differently up." KK3.0 was
available from my ftp site for about a year until the machine was stolen.
Mk
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01480" HREF="msg01480.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 25 Jun 1997, 06:14 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01345" HREF="msg01345.html">[MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 19 Jun 1997, 00:45 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01355" HREF="msg01355.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>,
Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Thu 19 Jun 1997, 17:16 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01482" HREF="msg01482.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01540" HREF="msg01540.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>,
Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Fri 27 Jun 1997, 00:34 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00983" HREF="msg00983.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Spoken Languages & Food [was RP thesis...]</A></strong>,
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Thu 01 Jan 1970, 13:47 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00957" HREF="msg00957.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Spoken Languages & Food [was RP thesis...]</A></strong>,
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Sat 31 May 1997, 00:04 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00988" HREF="msg00988.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Spoken Languages & Food [was RP thesis...]</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sat 31 May 1997, 14:04 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01071" HREF="msg01071.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Spoken Languages & Food [was RP thesis...]</A></strong>,
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