<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Life --> <!--X-From-R13: [negva Yrrtna <znegvaNpnz.fev.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: from fabius.globecomm.net [207.51.48.6] by in1.ibm.net id 867346465.51682-1 Thu Jun 26 17:34:25 1997 CUT --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.GSO.3.96.970626181112.29959I-100000@tay --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199706242335.QAA28936#xsvr3,cup.hp.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01539.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01541.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01482.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00983.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01540">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01540">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01540">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Martin Keegan <<A HREF="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 26 Jun 1997 18:33:39 +0100 (BST)</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Tue, 24 Jun 1997 clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote: > >On Wed, 18 Jun 1997 clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote: > > >> Bubba of house X got special object Y. > >> > >> Therefore it is reasonable for Boffo of house X to later have > >> Y despite being a newbie. > >> > >> How about abilities gamed by players? Did they cross reflect to other > >> members of the house? I can also see this forming the basis of more > >> interesting clan and political battles. No - the abilities don't pass round to other players. All the players in a house are separate entities, but they can share the benefits of their house. Most of them tend to be the same human anyway. A house is like a family. > >YES! The clan stuff gets interesting. Running more than one house > >will be disallowed, but if a house takes a newbie under its wing, and > >the newbie starts to grow strong, he may eventually take over the > >house when its original player leaves. > > I can also see a lot of interest value if you allow houses to recruit > other players to be members of their house. You then, by extension, > almost get the concept of a house as clan, with player characters as > actively sought after and even contested resource for houses. During the Eclipse discussions, this idea grew rapidly from a fun thought experiment to a raging monster that had to be tamed to prevent it from permeating every aspect of the game. > This also opens the interesting spectre of a player character being a > member of two houses, or even an honourary member of non-primary The motivation for it was to deal with multi-charring, longevity and advancement. Once you have non-primary membership of other houses, it gets interesting > houses. Add small doses of treachery, treason, and betrayal > (guaranteed with human players, but also easy to stir up) and you have > the beginnings of a real political system. > >You've got the picture. BTW, Kill the Keegans was actually the name > >of a VB game written in 1994 by someone who didn't like me much. > > Yup. I played it back when my then SO (she of the very short > downtime) ran a Windows hawking BBS. Scarily, I parsed SO as SysOp on the first pass. That downtime euphemism is ... erm :) "Is the game down" - "No, it's differently up." KK3.0 was available from my ftp site for about a year until the machine was stolen. Mk </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="01482" HREF="msg01482.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> clawrenc#cup,hp.com</LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01539.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01541.html">[NOISE] common server design</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01482.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00983.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Spoken Languages & Food [was RP thesis...]</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#01540"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#01540"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="01480" HREF="msg01480.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 25 Jun 1997, 06:14 GMT </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="01345" HREF="msg01345.html">[MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 19 Jun 1997, 00:45 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01355" HREF="msg01355.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Thu 19 Jun 1997, 17:16 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01482" HREF="msg01482.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 25 Jun 1997, 06:37 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01540" HREF="msg01540.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, Martin Keegan <a href="mailto:martin#cam,sri.com">martin#cam,sri.com</a>, Fri 27 Jun 1997, 00:34 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00983" HREF="msg00983.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Spoken Languages & Food [was RP thesis...]</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Thu 01 Jan 1970, 13:47 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00957" HREF="msg00957.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Spoken Languages & Food [was RP thesis...]</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Sat 31 May 1997, 00:04 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00988" HREF="msg00988.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Spoken Languages & Food [was RP thesis...]</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sat 31 May 1997, 14:04 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01071" HREF="msg01071.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Spoken Languages & Food [was RP thesis...]</A></strong>, Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Tue 03 Jun 1997, 05:31 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>