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<H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] "From Kansas to Oz"</H1>
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<LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</A></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 24 Jun 97 16:55:11 -0700</LI>
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In <<A HREF="msg01363.html">Pine.BSF.3.96.970619152929.2710A-100000#roguetrader,com</A>>, on
06/19/97
at 08:40 PM, Brandon Gillespie <brandon#roguetrader,com> said:
>On Thu, 12 Jun 1997 clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote:
>> Quite. Remove Cold's requirement for a single root and it becomes
>> almost trivial at the base level to implement. Then the ugly stuff is
>> in the automatic kick-overs to Oz, the Oz<->Kansas
>> inter-relationships, and the Oz generations.
>I've debated this over and over, and the main win of a single-root
>system is security. If you can create your own object root at any
>time, its easy for joe-programmer to override all security
>subsystems. By restricting to one root object, all it means is
>design it right, only put security subsystems on $root them spawn sub
>roots for each 'world'.
Kansas/Oz'es approach (understandable given MOO's single inheritance)
was to heavily layer the security on the creation of new roots, and
the ability of an object to access another object dependant from a
different root (Oz generations). Their assumption (largely correct)
was that given controls on those two points the rest could pretty well
be assumed.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01314" HREF="msg01314.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "From Kansas to Oz"</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Fri 13 Jun 1997, 05:42 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01315" HREF="msg01315.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "From Kansas to Oz"</A></strong>,
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Fri 13 Jun 1997, 10:24 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01317" HREF="msg01317.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "From Kansas to Oz"</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01363" HREF="msg01363.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "From Kansas to Oz"</A></strong>,
Brandon Gillespie <a href="mailto:brandon#roguetrader,com">brandon#roguetrader,com</a>, Fri 20 Jun 1997, 04:55 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01485" HREF="msg01485.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "From Kansas to Oz"</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 25 Jun 1997, 06:59 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01259" HREF="msg01259.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The laws of probability</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sat 10 Jan 1970, 03:27 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01286" HREF="msg01286.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The laws of probability</A></strong>,
coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Wed 11 Jun 1997, 10:18 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01240" HREF="msg01240.html">[RP] The thoughful player</A></strong>,
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Thu 08 Jan 1970, 06:51 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="01239" HREF="msg01239.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Death</A></strong>,
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Thu 08 Jan 1970, 06:31 GMT
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