<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD --> <!--X-From-R13: "Xba O. Znzoreg" <wyflfvapNvk.argpbz.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: from fabius.globecomm.net [207.51.48.6] by in10.ibm.net id 866962156.51102-1 Sun Jun 22 06:49:16 1997 CUT --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199706220649.BAA13589@dfw-ix16.ix.netcom.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01414.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01416.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01419.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01456.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01415">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01415">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01415">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Jon A. Lambert" <<A HREF="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sun, 22 Jun 1997 02:49:06 -0400</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> > Marian spaketh: > > [article snipped] > > I managed to understand a couple of words from all of this. > Am I being exceptionally stupid or do I need a new dictionary? > I'm not sure what you mean. I did spell check it and it came out fine. :( My grammar checker always tells me I shouldn't write passive sentences, so I took an imperative action and disabled it. > > 1) Building is done using a configuration file that is edited using a > > standard text editor in an off-line environment. > > I think this is what I usually do and it suits my needs (and abilities) > so I'm not too sure why you would want something else? Let me repost something from several months back: -cut- I am writing a game server not a generic programming environment server like LP or Genesis. The game's configuration and objects reside in a disk database and these objects are not extended via the servers language, they are only manipulated by the server language. It is my opinion that complex languages like C, C++, Java, LPC and Cold are too difficult to learn by my builders which tend to be strictly non-programmers although very creative and smart people. My building programs will be GUI editors with nice point and click interfaces and the language used by them will be minimal and integrated into the building interface. This will probably end up resembling a Visual Basic IDE environment (*giggle*). Controls which represent "black box" C++ programs can be happily dragged about and attached to objects, rooms and NPCs. They will have properties boxes for minimal tailoring. -cut- Only thing that has changed since this post is that I am implementing objects within the server language and the VisualBasic IDE is a poor description of the interface. The builder interface is a good deal more visual and makes extensive use of validation and reusable objects. My builder's know very little of programming. I believe that command line interfaces are a huge turn-off for those who have never used DOS or Unix. The success of Macintosh, XWindows and Windows as a user-interface kind of backs this up. I hope to attract creative writers not programmers. Those of us who grew up with command-level interfaces think they are very natural and comfortable, there are many more who do not. If you have access to Windows take a look at the Merc utilities MZF and SPAM at <<A HREF="http://www.goodnet.com/~esnible/mudinfo.html">http://www.goodnet.com/~esnible/mudinfo.html</A>> These are fair representations of my builder's interface without the extensions I outlined above. JL </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="01456" HREF="msg01456.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Marian Griffith <gryphon#iaehv,nl></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01414.html">Supporting RP+PG</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01416.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01419.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01456.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#01415"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#01415"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="01436" HREF="msg01436.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Mon 23 Jun 1997, 06:11 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01562" HREF="msg01562.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Sat 28 Jun 1997, 03:56 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01566" HREF="msg01566.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></strong>, Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Sat 28 Jun 1997, 11:28 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="01419" HREF="msg01419.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#inficad,com">nightfall#inficad,com</a>, Sun 22 Jun 1997, 17:32 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="01415" HREF="msg01415.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sun 22 Jun 1997, 13:49 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01456" HREF="msg01456.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Mon 23 Jun 1997, 22:56 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01461" HREF="msg01461.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] User Interface (was: RP=MUSH/PG=MUD)</A></strong>, Shawn Halpenny <a href="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</a>, Tue 24 Jun 1997, 00:13 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01463" HREF="msg01463.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Tue 24 Jun 1997, 00:34 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01417" HREF="msg01417.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP=MUSH/PG=MUD</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Sun 22 Jun 1997, 14:55 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>