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<H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] "From Kansas to Oz"</H1>
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<LI><em>From</em>: Jeff Kesselman <<A HREF="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</A>></LI>
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At 09:32 PM 6/11/97 PST8PDT, JC Lawrence wrote:
>In <<A HREF="msg01288.html">3.0.2.32.19970610230934.00a1665c#mail,tenetwork.com</A>>, on 06/11/97
> at 09:05 AM, Jeff Kesselman <jeffk#tenetwork,com> said:
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>>At 06:49 PM 6/10/97 PST8PDT, you wrote:
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>Uhh, Jeff, attributions please?
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>>>True. They are probably the (near?) first to add a GUI drag'n'drop
>>>development environment to a MUD, let alone also adding an online
>>>interactive GUI debugger in the same system.
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>>Ahem.
>>I wrote MUDEDIT, a JAVA based interactive browser/editor/debugger for
>>COLD a year ago.
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>Right, and while MUDEdit does use a GUI to display text windows, its
>not really a GUI product. In Sun's case they created a fully GUI
(lots of other good stuff abotu OZ deleted.)
Not claimign it was. In fact OZ had BETTER doa whoel heck of alot more
since I wrote mudedit in 2 weeks worth of train rides.
I just raised an eyebrow at the "first MUD debugger".
I'm not sure I agree with the distinction btw code lebvel and lib level
though. I see little real distinction. MUDEDIT requried a few fucntiosn on
root, and a single object it talked to. Thats it.
JK
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01261" HREF="msg01261.html">"From Kansas to Oz"</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sat 10 Jan 1970, 03:27 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01276" HREF="msg01276.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "From Kansas to Oz"</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Tue 10 Jun 1997, 21:06 GMT
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Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Thu 12 Jun 1997, 12:11 GMT
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clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Fri 13 Jun 1997, 01:48 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01306" HREF="msg01306.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] "From Kansas to Oz"</A></strong>,
Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#srce,hr">silovic#srce,hr</a>, Thu 12 Jun 1997, 14:45 GMT
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