<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Message problems with this list --> <!--X-From-R13: pbqreNvoz.arg --> <!--X-Date: from scipio.globecomm.net [207.51.48.12] by in3.ibm.net id 865524846.150694-1 Thu Jun 5 15:34:06 1997 CUT --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199706051533.PAA92100#out1,ibm.net --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Message problems with this list</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:coder#ibm,net"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01193.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01195.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01292.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01193.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01194">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01194">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01194">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Message problems with this list</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Message problems with this list</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Thu, 05 Jun 97 08:23:25 -0700</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> We got a couple truncated messages at the list in the last couple days, so I looked into the problem again as well as the prior broken messages. There are two problems: 1) Multi-part MIME as I mentioned earlier. 2) A bug with IBM's new mail servers. This is the corker that's been biting lately. IBM recently upgraded their mail servers for greater capacity, applied various patches etc. Along the way they introduced an old old POP3 bug. Those of you familiar with Solaris' POP3 server and its content-length problems will know exactly what I'm referrring to. The problem: The POP3 server will erroneously interpret lines within the body of the message as header lines. The classic case is to have a line in the middle of your text starting with the word "From" (case sensitive). The POP3 server will split the message at that point turning it into two messages -- one with headers, and one without. I've reported this to IBM along with a full explanation of exactly what is happening. They are aware of the problem and its exact cause. The solution is not going to happen immediately (lotta servers and testing). A work-around for now: If you must start a line in your message with "From": Don't. Add a space and make it " From". That will be enough to skip by the bug. The requirement for the bug to hit is that the very first characters on the line must be "From". Or just rephrase the sentance or some such similar. <grrrr> -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net ----------(*) Internet: coder#ibm,net ...Honourary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01193.html">Greetings</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01195.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Threaded rand()</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01292.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] I have no words and I must design</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01193.html">Greetings</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#01194"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#01194"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: DESIGN: The Physics of Magic</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="01219" HREF="msg01219.html">Re: DESIGN: The Physics of Magic</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Fri 06 Jun 1997, 11:45 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01217" HREF="msg01217.html">TSR has been bought.</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Fri 06 Jun 1997, 07:47 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="01216" HREF="msg01216.html">I have no words and I must design</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Fri 06 Jun 1997, 07:28 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01292" HREF="msg01292.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] I have no words and I must design</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</a>, Wed 11 Jun 1997, 21:49 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01194" HREF="msg01194.html">Message problems with this list</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Thu 05 Jun 1997, 22:34 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="01193" HREF="msg01193.html">Greetings</A></strong>, Koster, Raph <a href="mailto:rkoster#origin,ea.com">rkoster#origin,ea.com</a>, Thu 05 Jun 1997, 22:16 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="01188" HREF="msg01188.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Computers can't....</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Thu 05 Jun 1997, 12:47 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="01172" HREF="msg01172.html">Re: (fwd) DESIGN: The Physics of Magic</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Thu 05 Jun 1997, 11:36 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="01151" HREF="msg01151.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Lessons of Lucasfilm's Habitat</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Wed 04 Jun 1997, 21:47 GMT </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>