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<LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</A></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 04 Jun 97 14:33:28 -0700</LI>
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In <<A HREF="msg01129.html">3.0.32.19970603210122.009e2b90#mail,tenetwork.com</A>>, on 06/03/97
at 09:07 PM, Jeff Kesselman <jeffk#tenetwork,com> said:
>Chris Lawrence wrote:
>>In <<A HREF="msg01046.html">199706020309.WAA16765#dfw-ix13,ix.netcom.com</A>>, on 06/01/97
>> at 08:19 PM, "Jon A. Lambert" <jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com> said:
>>>This is cute. The word balloon idea is neat. I was leaning against
>>>avatars since the range of emotions expressed might be limited.
>>
>>It also is rather twee. Have a look at the various Habitat inheritors
>>like Palace and V-World. The general impression is more of kicks and
>>giggles than say Conan the Barbarian's testosterone grunts.
>I took a serious look at bubble-chat a bit ago for our needs. In an
>envrionment thats already cartoony (great exampel is Sierra's The
>Realm) it fits the metaphor quite nicely.
>The big problem is lack of history. In a chat window when it comes
>fast and furious you can look back.
...
>A secondary issue is that it often gets in the way of seeing what
>else is goign on in the envrionment.
Good arguments against bubble speech. A good one for it is that it
gives a very direct sense of context to speech. If Bubba says, "Help!
It attacked me!" and a matching bubble appears over his head, it gives
a very direct and obvious frame of reference. Having the same text
only appear in a scrolling text buffer, visually unassociated with the
Bubba avatar on screen next to the blob is a different matter.
Note: The visual occlusion of the bubble hiding what's behind it can
be handled by making the bubble transluscent or by making bubbles
appear out-of-picure as Habitat did.
>>>Any thoughts on avatars, good or bad?
>We've looekd at this exhaustively. Our conclusions are as follows,
>for what theya re worth:
>(1) 1st person (Doom) ...
>(2) Overhead/three-quarter view (Diablo) ...
>(3) Side View ...
I've been thinking of attempting a
three-feet-back-of-the-character's-head view with a 270 degree
fish-eye presentation.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01048" HREF="msg01048.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Administrative posting</A></strong>,
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Mon 02 Jun 1997, 10:58 GMT
<LI><strong><A NAME="01046" HREF="msg01046.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Lessons of Lucasfilm's Habitat</A></strong>,
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Mon 02 Jun 1997, 10:04 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01114" HREF="msg01114.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Lessons of Lucasfilm's Habitat</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 04 Jun 1997, 04:36 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01157" HREF="msg01157.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Lessons of Lucasfilm's Habitat</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01184" HREF="msg01184.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Lessons of Lucasfilm's Habitat</A></strong>,
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Thu 05 Jun 1997, 12:30 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01198" HREF="msg01198.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Lessons of Lucasfilm's Habitat</A></strong>,
Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lut.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lut.ac.uk</a>, Thu 05 Jun 1997, 23:14 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01207" HREF="msg01207.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Lessons of Lucasfilm's Habitat</A></strong>,
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01223" HREF="msg01223.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] The Lessons of Lucasfilm's Habitat</A></strong>,
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