<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Life --> <!--X-From-R13: pbqreNvoz.arg --> <!--X-Date: from stimpy.globecomm.net [207.51.48.4] by in12.ibm.net id 865216191.29332-1 Mon Jun 2 01:49:51 1997 CUT --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199706020157.BAA55302#out1,ibm.net --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 3.0.32.19970601170311.009dbb28#mail,tenetwork.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:coder#ibm,net"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg01037.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01040.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg01037.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg01065.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#01038">Author</A> | <A HREF="#01038">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#01038">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sun, 01 Jun 97 18:32:43 -0700</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On 01/06/97 at 05:09 PM, Jeff Kesselman <jeffk#tenetwork,com> said: >Frankly, Im beginning to believe soem of these posts are trolls and >im gonna start asking 'is this WORTH a response' before I answer to >save you all the grief. Its simpler than that. Intentionally or not you have equated RP with intelligent civilised behaviour, and GOP and powerplay (and to some extent anything else which is not RP per your definition) with antisocial juvenile knee-jerk testosteroid genital measurement. A large faction of this list, specifically most of the original members are not immersive RP players per your definition, and conciously or not, react aggressively to the above equation. It echoes the various programming language and OS religious wars in character. I've certainly fallen into this defensive camp. I don't consider myself a powerplayer or even a GOP (I have no great interest in "beating" the system) and I have little interest or affinity for immersive RP, yet I find myself defending my preference for non-RP games. It is silly. The equation is flawed in base principle, and everything else from there is chest thumping. Let the RP vs Powergaming vs GOP vs the world thread die. Now. Chest thumping is not signal, it is noise. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net ----------(*) Internet: coder#ibm,net ...Honourary Member of Clan McFud -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <ul compact><li><strong>Follow-Ups</strong>: <ul> <li><strong><A NAME="01065" HREF="msg01065.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong> <ul compact><li><em>From:</em> Marian Griffith <gryphon#iaehv,nl></li></ul> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="01037" HREF="msg01037.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Jeff Kesselman <jeffk#tenetwork,com></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01037.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01040.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01037.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg01065.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#01038"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#01038"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="01070" HREF="msg01070.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Sun 04 Jan 1970, 08:16 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01149" HREF="msg01149.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#inficad,com">nightfall#inficad,com</a>, Wed 04 Jun 1997, 21:09 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="01035" HREF="msg01035.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Mon 02 Jun 1997, 06:40 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01037" HREF="msg01037.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Mon 02 Jun 1997, 07:00 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01038" HREF="msg01038.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Mon 02 Jun 1997, 08:49 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="01065" HREF="msg01065.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Tue 03 Jun 1997, 03:51 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01047" HREF="msg01047.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</a>, Mon 02 Jun 1997, 10:39 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01040" HREF="msg01040.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, Huibai <a href="mailto:ashen#pixi,com">ashen#pixi,com</a>, Mon 02 Jun 1997, 09:14 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01039" HREF="msg01039.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Life</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Mon 02 Jun 1997, 09:16 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>