<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis... --> <!--X-From-R13: Eunja Vnycraal <znynpunvNvanzr.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: from stimpy.globecomm.net [207.51.48.4] by in12.ibm.net id 865013393.23914-1 Fri May 30 17:29:53 1997 CUT --> <!--X-Message-Id: 338F108B.41C67EA6#iname,com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: Marcel-1.09-0529231348-0b0Ky&5#Gryphon,iaehv.nl --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:malachai#iname,com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00958.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00960.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00936.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00962.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00959">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00959">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00959">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Shawn Halpenny <<A HREF="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 30 May 1997 13:38:19 -0400</LI> <LI><em>Sender</em>: <A HREF="mailto:rsh#iname,com">rsh#iname,com</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> Marian Griffith wrote: > > On Wed 28 May, Adam Wiggins wrote: > > [Marian:] > > > > Why not make the ashes of that bonfire a very real object in that > > > area that will be present in the room every time that room is re- > > > created. Of course you also have to make it decay over time but > > > that's something I find in most muds anyway. > > > Right. The trick is, of course, that you just store a general description > > of the world (things like terrain and elevation), and then *changes* to > > that. Things like tracks, campfires, objects on the ground, sigils > > carved in trees, local mana depletions, and so on are stored as lists > > rather than arrays. If you only have one campfire, you only have one > > item in the list. [etc snipped] > > I'm not sure I follow this all, but my simplistic idea would be to have > a list for 'the forest of green shadows' and another list for 'the > mountains of sorrow'. That should allow more special objects to be kept. > And if that's not enough you can further subdivide the forest and the > mountains until you have a manageable number of objects in each location > in the world, right? Fundamentally, the abstraction of what you're describing and how things like R*-trees and the like are implemented are similar, so you're probably following just fine :-) Sure there are gory implementation details, but subdividing the forest and the mountains to achieve greater levels of detail where necessary is the underlying principle. -- Shawn Halpenny "It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious." - Unknown </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00936" HREF="msg00936.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> Marian Griffith <gryphon#iaehv,nl></LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00958.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00960.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Resets, repops and quests</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00936.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00962.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00959"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00959"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00670" HREF="msg00670.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Thu 22 May 1997, 00:28 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00850" HREF="msg00850.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Wed 28 May 1997, 00:28 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00886" HREF="msg00886.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#user1,inficad.com">nightfall#user1,inficad.com</a>, Wed 28 May 1997, 15:46 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00936" HREF="msg00936.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></strong>, Marian Griffith <a href="mailto:gryphon#iaehv,nl">gryphon#iaehv,nl</a>, Fri 30 May 1997, 05:31 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00959" HREF="msg00959.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></strong>, Shawn Halpenny <a href="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</a>, Sat 31 May 1997, 00:29 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00962" HREF="msg00962.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></strong>, Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Sat 31 May 1997, 03:19 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="01000" HREF="msg01000.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#inficad,com">nightfall#inficad,com</a>, Sat 31 May 1997, 18:50 GMT </LI> </LI> </LI> </LI> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00658" HREF="msg00658.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></strong>, Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lut.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lut.ac.uk</a>, Wed 21 May 1997, 19:53 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00659" HREF="msg00659.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></strong>, Travis S Casey <a href="mailto:casey#nu,cs.fsu.edu">casey#nu,cs.fsu.edu</a>, Wed 21 May 1997, 20:01 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>