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<LI><em>From</em>: Caliban Tiresias Darklock <<A HREF="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</A>></LI>
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Chris Gray wrote:
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> I've read enough on C++ to know
> that its unlikely I'll ever use it, and I fail to see any contributions
> it has made to the state of the art (fight'n words, I know!). I do need
> to read up on Java, however.
AMEN!!!!! I have offered the same two challenges to every C++ programmer
I've met. No one has ever satisfactorily responded.
1. Show me one thing object oriented programming does which proper
structured programming discipline can not.
2. Show me one C++ construct that is impossible to implement in C.
The major arguments I receive on this are:
1. Inheritance. I respond, 'void *parent'.
2. Methods in classes. I respond, 'int (*method)()'.
I do admit that you can write a program much faster in C++ when you use
the proper class libraries, and C++ can indeed be made much more
readable. But starting from a blank text file and using no class
libraries at all, just the standard C and C++ compiler libraries, C++
ends up looking an awful lot like C... except that it runs slower, has a
fatter binary, and took a good deal longer to write. ;>
The benefits of C++ are in code reuse, but code reuse is not always an
appropriate thing, and you have to have some C++ code to reuse first.
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00618" HREF="msg00618.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages</A></strong>,
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Tue 20 May 1997, 11:39 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00627" HREF="msg00627.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Tue 20 May 1997, 21:47 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00650" HREF="msg00650.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages</A></strong>,
Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Wed 21 May 1997, 12:48 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00663" HREF="msg00663.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages</A></strong>,
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Wed 21 May 1997, 21:47 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00680" HREF="msg00680.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages</A></strong>,
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Thu 22 May 1997, 01:33 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00701" HREF="msg00701.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages</A></strong>,
Ben Greear <a href="mailto:greear#pollux,cs.uga.edu">greear#pollux,cs.uga.edu</a>, Fri 23 May 1997, 08:34 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00708" HREF="msg00708.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages</A></strong>,
Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Fri 23 May 1997, 11:54 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00725" HREF="msg00725.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages</A></strong>,
Shawn Halpenny <a href="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</a>, Sat 24 May 1997, 07:08 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00739" HREF="msg00739.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Languages</A></strong>,
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