<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Issues from the digests and Wout's list --> <!--X-From-R13: Zvat <Y.Z.Zb-94Nfghqrag.yhg.np.hx> --> <!--X-Date: from major.globecomm.net [207.51.48.5] by mx01.ca.us.ibm.net id 864217792.48386-1 Wed May 21 12:29:52 1997 --> <!--X-Message-Id: Pine.SOL.3.95.970521132332.19661D-100000@sun-cc203 --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199705210100.SAA11765#xsvr3,cup.hp.com --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Issues from the digests and Wout's list</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lut.ac.uk"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00656.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00658.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00699.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00164.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00657">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00657">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00657">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Issues from the digests and Wout's list</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Issues from the digests and Wout's list</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: Ling <<A HREF="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lut.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lut.ac.uk</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 21 May 1997 13:29:37 +0100 (BST)</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Tue, 20 May 1997 clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote: > In <<A HREF="msg00575.html">199705190115.DAA06158#regoc,srce.hr</A>>, on 05/18/97 > at 06:19 PM, silovic#srce,hr (Miroslav Silovic) said: > > >The similar example: causing commands that failed because of typos to > >have IC consequences (for instance, typing 'west', when there is no > >exit to west, should produce an error, because while player didn't > >know that there is no exit, character certainly did know that. > > Again this comes back to the question of distinction I posed a couple > days ago (which got very little feedback). Are you the human merely a > background mentor for the character in the MUD, or is the character in > the MUD merely a proxy for you the human (along with whatever personae > etc you wish to assume)? > > If you take the former view, then yes, walking into the wall is both > surprising and probably unacceptable. If you take the later view > (which I prefer) then walking into the wall is not only preferable, > but not walking into the wall breaks the logical consistancy of the > world. Hmm... I think I sit in the former? That's why I was so interested in Nathan's risk assessment. Say my character (Kate) was piloting a Gear (little, well, 5 metre tall, mech things). By typing west, Kate should happily pilot that thing thru a brick wall. She shouldn't try walking into the same wall if she was undressed though. Or should it prompt me? > w Are you sure you want to walk into the wall? Icky, icky, icky, icky (soz, lost my vocab for a second). | Ling "Mental slavery, _O_O_ Freshwater fish since 1976 set my spirit free" </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <UL><LI><STRONG>References</STRONG>: <UL> <LI><STRONG><A NAME="00641" HREF="msg00641.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Issues from the digests and Wout's list</A></STRONG> <UL><LI><EM>From:</EM> clawrenc#cup,hp.com</LI></UL></LI> </UL></LI></UL> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00656.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Issues from the digests and Wout's list</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00658.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] RP thesis...</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00699.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Issues from the digests and Wout's list</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00164.html">Re: Issues from the digests and Wout's list</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00657"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00657"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Issues from the digests and Wout's list</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00726" HREF="msg00726.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Issues from the digests and Wout's list</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Sat 24 May 1997, 07:38 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00740" HREF="msg00740.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Issues from the digests and Wout's list</A></strong>, Caliban Tiresias Darklock <a href="mailto:caliban#darklock,com">caliban#darklock,com</a>, Sun 25 May 1997, 03:38 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00754" HREF="msg00754.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Issues from the digests and Wout's list</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Sun 25 May 1997, 07:21 GMT </LI> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00699" HREF="msg00699.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Issues from the digests and Wout's list</A></strong>, Miroslav Silovic <a href="mailto:silovic#srce,hr">silovic#srce,hr</a>, Fri 23 May 1997, 04:54 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00657" HREF="msg00657.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Issues from the digests and Wout's list</A></strong>, Ling <a href="mailto:K.L.Lo-94#student,lut.ac.uk">K.L.Lo-94#student,lut.ac.uk</a>, Wed 21 May 1997, 19:29 GMT </LI> </ul> </ul> </ul> </ul> <LI><strong><A NAME="00164" HREF="msg00164.html">Re: Issues from the digests and Wout's list</A></strong>, Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Sun 20 Apr 1997, 05:15 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00165" HREF="msg00165.html">Re: Issues from the digests and Wout's list</A></strong>, Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Sun 20 Apr 1997, 05:41 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00209" HREF="msg00209.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Issues from the digests and Wout's list</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Fri 25 Apr 1997, 11:56 GMT <UL> <LI><strong><A NAME="00228" HREF="msg00228.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Issues from the digests and Wout's list</A></strong>, Shawn Halpenny <a href="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</a>, Sat 26 Apr 1997, 02:50 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>