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<LI><em>From</em>: Shawn Halpenny <<A HREF="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</A>></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Tue, 29 Apr 1997 10:16:56 -0400</LI>
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clawrenc#cup,hp.com wrote:
[ explanation of free user-prog'ing and security functions ]
> The other corner of the secutiry triangle rests on the fact that a
> child may only inherit from a parent if the parent allows it. I do
> not allow free inheritance. It is up to the parent to rule whether or
> not it will accept tha parent. Ditto for disinheritance.
>
> How this impacts free user programming is that all newly created
> objects auto-inherit from $NEW_OBJECT. Nobody but an admin can remove
> that inheritance ($NEW_OBJECT refuses to release the child). Objects
> can also inherit from $VALIDATED_OBJECT (again, only admins can do
> this) if its needed to create an object which is still a $NEW_OBJECT
> but needs to be able to do a little more.
Ah, I see. Mandatory safe inheritance implies that JoeUser can't get
hold
of an admin object and derive something nasty from it. I hadn't thought
of using inheritance this way but it seems it would work perfectly.
> >Security becomes the biggest
> >issue, methinks, and with my language (at the moment, I intend to use
> >Perl) there are a lot of nasty things users shouldn't do that are
> >perfectly legal if you're an admin.
>
> I keep looking at using a pre-existant language for my server, with
> PIKE and REXX being the main candidates, but I've yet to find one I
> think I could be happy with both for learning curve for new users, and
> feature set.
>
> BTW Have you looked at PerlMUD?
Nope. I'd heard of it, but never taken a look. Is the entire thing
written in Perl or is Perl just embedded? If the former, I've no
interest
in it; the latter might prompt some looking.
--
Shawn Halpenny
"People that are really very weird can get into sensitive
positions and have a tremendous impact on history."
- Dan Quayle
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00200" HREF="msg00200.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Issues from the digests and Wout's list</A></strong>,
Shawn Halpenny <a href="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</a>, Thu 24 Apr 1997, 21:30 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00214" HREF="msg00214.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Issues from the digests and Wout's list</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Fri 25 Apr 1997, 12:52 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00223" HREF="msg00223.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Issues from the digests and Wout's list</A></strong>,
Shawn Halpenny <a href="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</a>, Fri 25 Apr 1997, 23:39 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00261" HREF="msg00261.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Issues from the digests and Wout's list</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Mon 28 Apr 1997, 23:34 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00281" HREF="msg00281.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Issues from the digests and Wout's list</A></strong>,
Shawn Halpenny <a href="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</a>, Tue 29 Apr 1997, 21:10 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00295" HREF="msg00295.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Re: Issues from the digests and Wout's list</A></strong>,
clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Wed 30 Apr 1997, 02:53 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01059" HREF="msg01059.html">Room-based vs. coordinate-based</A></strong>,
Alex Oren <a href="mailto:alexo#bigfoot,com">alexo#bigfoot,com</a>, Tue 03 Jun 1997, 01:02 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01096" HREF="msg01096.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Room-based vs. coordinate-based</A></strong>,
Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#inficad,com">nightfall#inficad,com</a>, Tue 03 Jun 1997, 19:31 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="01099" HREF="msg01099.html">Re: [MUD-Dev] Room-based vs. coordinate-based</A></strong>,
Shawn Halpenny <a href="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</a>, Tue 03 Jun 1997, 22:43 GMT
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