<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: Of disk swapping, database structure & project management.. --> <!--X-From-R13: pynjerapNphc.uc.pbz --> <!--X-Date: from fabius.globecomm.net [207.51.48.6] by mx01.ca.us.ibm.net id 861035278.174663-1 Mon Apr 14 16:27:58 1997 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 199704141626.JAA12971#xsvr3,cup.hp.com --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199704131946.TAA160552#out1,ibm.net --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: Of disk swapping, database structure & project management.</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00131.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00133.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00129.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00083.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00132">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00132">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00132">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: Of disk swapping, database structure & project management..</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: Multiple Recipients of MUD Design Mailing List <<A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A>></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: Of disk swapping, database structure & project management..</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</A></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Sun, 13 Apr 97 09:19:59 -0700</LI> <LI><em>Reply-to</em>: <A HREF="mailto:claw#null,net">claw#null,net</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> In <199704131946.TAA160552#out1,ibm.net>, on 04/13/97 at 12:48 PM, Jeff Kesselman <jeffk#tenetwork,com> said: >At 09:00 AM 4/13/97 -0700, you wrote: >> Have one guy be the boss. >Ild say "lead", im a bit more flexible. There has to be one guy who >directs the effort but I dont thin khe HAS to be dictator necc. While I've seen this work with physically proximate teams, add distance and indirect communication into the loop and it spells disaster. >> Have the boss'es final word be the final law without argument. >The lead shoudl be able to state how a decision will be reached, >though taht might be by vote or copncsensus or fiat. Aside: I have a allergic reaction to votes. I see them producing the greatest common stupidity, not something of actual value. >> *NEVER* attempt to work via democracy or concensus. >I disagree here. Ahving worked in grousop where EVERYONE was an >expereicned lead, consensus CAN work. It takes tiem however, and it >only works well face to face. (The Americna indians did EVERYITHING >by consensus.) While I'll admit that it is possible for it to work, I've not seen it. (Note: HP's (where my current contract is) defined management style is concensus. I don't see it working here either. The successful managers are those who make decisions, not elicit them) >I agree a vote is bad befause there are "losesers" in almos tany vote >which is bad for morale and encourages project splits. For this >reason ,with intelligent dynamic develoerps however, fiat can ALSO >fail. This is why I also encluded the points of having the basic purposes defined and agreed upon before hand, and referencing those basic puposes in every contended decision. If a decision does not align flawlessly with the basic purposes, quite obviously the decision is suspect. -- J C Lawrence Internet: claw#null,net (Contractor) Internet: coder#ibm,net ---------------(*) Internet: clawrenc#cup,hp.com ...Honorary Member Clan McFUD -- Teamer's Avenging Monolith... </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00131.html">Re: Unique id's</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00133.html">Re: Ho hum</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00129.html">Re: Of disk swapping, database structure & project management..</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00083.html">short absence</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00132"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00132"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: Of disk swapping, database structure & project management..</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00107" HREF="msg00107.html">Re: Of disk swapping, database structure & project management..</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sun 13 Apr 1997, 00:16 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00117" HREF="msg00117.html">Re: Of disk swapping, database structure & project management..</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Sun 13 Apr 1997, 23:55 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00121" HREF="msg00121.html">Re: Of disk swapping, database structure & project management..</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Mon 14 Apr 1997, 02:45 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00129" HREF="msg00129.html">Re: Of disk swapping, database structure & project management..</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Mon 14 Apr 1997, 23:16 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00132" HREF="msg00132.html">Re: Of disk swapping, database structure & project management..</A></strong>, clawrenc <a href="mailto:clawrenc#cup,hp.com">clawrenc#cup,hp.com</a>, Mon 14 Apr 1997, 23:27 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00083" HREF="msg00083.html">short absence</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Sat 12 Apr 1997, 02:16 GMT <UL> <li><Possible follow-up(s)><br> <LI><strong><A NAME="00116" HREF="msg00116.html">Re: short absence</A></strong>, coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Mon 14 Apr 1997, 00:01 GMT </LI> </UL> </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00082" HREF="msg00082.html">Hello!</A></strong>, Ross Nicoll <a href="mailto:rnicoll#lostics,thenet.co.uk">rnicoll#lostics,thenet.co.uk</a>, Fri 11 Apr 1997, 22:14 GMT <LI><strong><A NAME="00075" HREF="msg00075.html">Execution</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Thu 10 Apr 1997, 21:46 GMT </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>