<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: Greetings. :) --> <!--X-From-R13: "Eunja Vnycraal" <efuNqbf.abegry.pbz> --> <!--X-Date: from babe.globecomm.net [207.51.48.8] by mx01.ca.us.ibm.net id 860594927.183949-1 Wed Apr 9 14:08:47 1997 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 9704091008.ZM224@sun38 --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Reference: 199704090355.DAA246684#out1,ibm.net --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: Greetings. :)</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:rsh#dos,nortel.com"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00058.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00060.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00058.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00060.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00059">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00059">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00059">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: Greetings. :)</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: Greetings. :)</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: "Shawn Halpenny" <<A HREF="mailto:rsh#dos,nortel.com">rsh#dos,nortel.com</A>></LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 9 Apr 1997 10:08:50 -0400</LI> <LI><em>Reply-To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:malachai#iname,com">malachai#iname,com</A></LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> On Apr 8, 8:47pm, Jeff Kesselman wrote: > Subject: Re: Greetings. :) > At 01:44 PM 4/8/97 -0400, you wrote: > >On Apr 6, 8:23am, coder#ibm,net wrote: > > > >[ stuff about JCL's DB snipped ] > > > >> This is probably better understood from the inside oot, rather than trying > >> to look at the server side: > >> > >> Everything is an object. > >> Objects are defined in a database. > >> Objects have Unique IDs. > > > >I've been kicking this unique ID/object around as well, and was > >wondering about how you generate them? I haven't been able to find > >any algorithms that would generate a unique ID given an object (or a > >request to do so) without having to search the list of ID's already > >generated. I don't know for sure if that last bit is possible, but I > >want things to still be speedy when the number of objects is large > >(2^31). I had an idea to keep track of the next available ID, and > >each time an object was created, assign it that value, then bump the > >value. Whenever an object is destroyed, keep track of the last 'n' > >(where n is something fairly small and manageable like 100) now-free > >IDs and if you wrap your next-ID counter, pull them out of the list of > >freed IDs. If the list runs empty, you have to search, though. > >There's optimization to be done in that, but that's the gist. > > > >Any magical algorithms? :) > > Hmm.... cold does this integrally. I uspsect it just keeps an efficeintly > searched list. How abotu this.... > > A "highest allocetd" counter and a list of available (freed) numbers. > Yo uuse the first on the free list unless the lsit is empty in which case > you bump the "highest' number and use that? > > Just some thoughts. > > JK Actually, on my drive home from work yesterday, I had somewhat of an epiphany regarding the unique IDs (Cynbe had also pointed out a very similar scheme to me this morning): - I've got a system clock that will be churning out unique values from now until sometime in January 2038, so when I create an object, I should be able to just snag the current time (with a granularity of probably microseconds) and use that as the object's ID. I suppose it wouldn't hurt to save the most-recent-ID so that if there is a burp with the system clock, I can ensure that I can restart the ID generation again at a proper place (i.e. any time after my last ID). That almost seems too easy and I can't help but think I've missed something... -- Shawn Halpenny </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00058.html">Re: Greetings. :)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00060.html">Re: Greetings. :)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00058.html">Re: Greetings. :)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00060.html">Re: Greetings. :)</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00059"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00059"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: Greetings. :)</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00054" HREF="msg00054.html">Re: Greetings. :)</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Wed 09 Apr 1997, 10:34 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00055" HREF="msg00055.html">Re: Greetings. :)</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Wed 09 Apr 1997, 10:43 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00056" HREF="msg00056.html">Re: Greetings. :)</A></strong>, Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Wed 09 Apr 1997, 10:49 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00058" HREF="msg00058.html">Re: Greetings. :)</A></strong>, Jeff Kesselman <a href="mailto:jeffk#tenetwork,com">jeffk#tenetwork,com</a>, Wed 09 Apr 1997, 11:04 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00059" HREF="msg00059.html">Re: Greetings. :)</A></strong>, Shawn Halpenny <a href="mailto:rsh#dos,nortel.com">rsh#dos,nortel.com</a>, Wed 09 Apr 1997, 21:08 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00060" HREF="msg00060.html">Re: Greetings. :)</A></strong>, Shawn Halpenny <a href="mailto:rsh#dos,nortel.com">rsh#dos,nortel.com</a>, Wed 09 Apr 1997, 21:18 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00062" HREF="msg00062.html">Re: Greetings. :)</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Wed 09 Apr 1997, 21:46 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00063" HREF="msg00063.html">Re: Greetings. :)</A></strong>, Greg Munt <a href="mailto:greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk">greg#uni-corn,demon.co.uk</a>, Thu 10 Apr 1997, 01:36 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00064" HREF="msg00064.html">Re: Greetings. :)</A></strong>, Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Thu 10 Apr 1997, 04:42 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>