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<H1>Re: Greetings. :)</H1>
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<LI><em>From</em>: Nathan Yospe &lt;<A HREF="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</A>&gt;</LI>
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On Mon, 31 Mar 1997 claw#null,net wrote:

:On 29/03/97 at 09:10 AM, Michael Hohensee
:&lt;michael#sparta,mainstream.net&gt; said:
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:&gt;	After diddling around with C for half a year, I started to write 
:&gt;what I call AeMud.  The acronym stands for Arbitrarily Expandable
:&gt;MUD.   And, as you may have guessed, the idea was to make it so that
:&gt;new things  would be easy to add.

Ah, _that's_ what "Ae" stands for.

:I've not actually assigned a name to my server.  Way back in the dawns
:of time it was named the "Black Hat MUD Server" due to my penchant for
:fedoras, but that only lasted for the first couple weeks of
:development.  Since then it was called "Murkle" for all of about a
:week, and then nothing.  I guess I ought to name it some day.

Well, so far, I've got Physmud++ (physmud is the account name in which the
original ROM that ran Singularity 1 was kept, and when I wrote the first
version of the C++ based source, it was there as well. The name sort of
stuck.) and NERD(tm)... Networked Emulated Reality Driver(threaded,
multiuser). I kind of like NERD(tm)... just about exactly sums up my
feelings regarding the proliferation of M** acronyms out there. (Mine's an
N**, so there!)

:&gt;	A way of treating all objects (players, creatures, rooms, etc) as 
:&gt;if they were the same for certain common uses. (common-use being
:&gt;defined  as anything you want everyone to be able to do.)
:
:Hehn.  I actually make no distinction among players, mobiles, rooms,
:objects, utility objects, etc.  There are just no unique object types. 
:They're all the same to the server.

I make a huge distinction... Things... Items... are all the same, but
Characters are not their bodies, they are the mind behind the body (which
is composed of Items) and Rooms are just a type of Location, as are the
interiors of containers, and countless ofther things.

:&gt;	Some of the cute things I've done with it are to make some really 
:&gt;interactive portals, and liquids that spill out of containers.
:
:How do you handle your liquids?  I have liquids which just do ajacent
:space counts ala "There are X units of liquid here, and Y units over
:there, to even things out X-Y/2 need to move..." etc.  This often
:resulted in one unit ripples, but was prerty tame for handling
:stream-type flows.

Hmmm. My liquids are just a classification for materials, and are managed
by cloning of the original liquid, minus the mass, and moving mass over to
the second body. Mass is not a unitary value... or maybe it is, I can't
tell without going within encapsulation, and I'm too lazy to open the
actual file right now. In any case, liquids use gravity as a mass
relocation motivator, same as everything else... they just do it in parts.

:&gt;	I've mostly stopped working on it these days, due to less time  and
:&gt;lack of ideas (sigh, burnout is dull.)
:
:That won't last here.

He speaks true. Every time I start to think I've got a Really Cool
Codebase(tm) these guys go and make me feel like I've got to redo the
whole thing better.

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<LI><STRONG>Re: Mixture</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00005" HREF="msg00005.html">Re: Mixture</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 03 Apr 1997, 05:56 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00026" HREF="msg00026.html">Re: Mixture</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00027" HREF="msg00027.html">Re: Mixture</A></strong>, 
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00000" HREF="msg00000.html">Re: Greetings. :)</A></strong>, 
Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Tue 01 Apr 1997, 21:45 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00002" HREF="msg00002.html">Re: Greetings. :)</A></strong>, 
Michael Hohensee <a href="mailto:michael#sparta,mainstream.net">michael#sparta,mainstream.net</a>, Tue 01 Apr 1997, 22:47 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00025" HREF="msg00025.html">Re: Greetings. :)</A></strong>, 
coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Mon 07 Apr 1997, 00:01 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00029" HREF="msg00029.html">Re: Greetings. :)</A></strong>, 
Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Mon 07 Apr 1997, 03:28 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00035" HREF="msg00035.html">Re: Greetings. :)</A></strong>, 
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Mon 07 Apr 1997, 13:01 GMT
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