<!-- MHonArc v2.4.4 --> <!--X-Subject: Re: Resets and repops --> <!--X-From-R13: ptNnzv-pt.UenlEntr.Sqzbagba.OP.QO (Quevf Uenl) --> <!--X-Date: from babe.globecomm.net [207.51.48.8] by mx01.ca.us.ibm.net id 858959399.59683-1 Fri Mar 21 15:49:59 1997 --> <!--X-Message-Id: 9703211424.7w1n@ami-cg.GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA --> <!--X-Content-Type: text/plain --> <!--X-Head-End--> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> <html> <head> <title>MUD-Dev message, Re: Resets and repops</title> <!-- meta name="robots" content="noindex,nofollow" --> <link rev="made" href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA"> </head> <body background="/backgrounds/paperback.gif" bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000" link="#0000FF" alink="#FF0000" vlink="#006000"> <font size="+4" color="#804040"> <strong><em>MUD-Dev<br>mailing list archive</em></strong> </font> <br> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] <br clear=all><hr> <!--X-Body-Begin--> <!--X-User-Header--> <!--X-User-Header-End--> <!--X-TopPNI--> Date: [ <a href="msg00160.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00162.html">Next</a> ] Thread: [ <a href="msg00159.html">Previous</a> | <a href="msg00162.html">Next</a> ] Index: [ <A HREF="author.html#00161">Author</A> | <A HREF="#00161">Date</A> | <A HREF="thread.html#00161">Thread</A> ] <!--X-TopPNI-End--> <!--X-MsgBody--> <!--X-Subject-Header-Begin--> <H1>Re: Resets and repops</H1> <HR> <!--X-Subject-Header-End--> <!--X-Head-of-Message--> <UL> <LI><em>To</em>: <A HREF="mailto:mud-dev#null,net">mud-dev#null,net</A></LI> <LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: Resets and repops</LI> <LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</A> (Chris Gray)</LI> <LI><em>Date</em>: Fri, 21 Mar 97 07:24:27 MST</LI> </UL> <!--X-Head-of-Message-End--> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-Begin--> <HR> <!--X-Head-Body-Sep-End--> <!--X-Body-of-Message--> <PRE> [ChrisL] :>Not bad; my only problem with this is that if there's any sort of :>mechanisms by which the player can learn about their world without :>actually going places, this starts to break down. The most obvious :>example is the spell locate object. : :Other good candidates: : : Built in rumour systems : Newspapers : OBE (Out of Body Experience) : Scrying : High altitude overview (for those with 3D) : Indirect viewing ("typical" magic eye objects, or your :clairvoyance). : Remotely controlled/possessed mobiles. : Demon riders on mobiles. : 'Bots. I'm not sure how to interpret the last 3 examples, but as for the others, none of those exist (yet) in my scenario. A wizard could create any of them, however. So, this suggests some changes. Currently, in my scenario (which I still call a "starter" scenario"), there are really 3 classes of NPC's: - those that stick around all the time. They either sidestep combat, run away instead of being killed, get regened like players do, or do not enter the combat areas. - those that are special to special rooms. These are the ones discussed - they come back only when the room is triggered. - generic monsters - these are pseudorandomly generate when players move around in combat areas The reason the class 2 ones stay gone until needed is really just one of efficiency - my server will run on a 7 Mhz 68000, so I want to not use extra cycles. A quick fix here is to have them re-appear right away, but not reactivate. So, distance viewing will see them, but always in the same place. An OK compromise, I think. Another solution is to establish a convention that says that distance viewers should check for and call a specific action on locations they are viewing. That action could cause the viewers to see the missing NPC's, without actually having to create them. (Dirty trick, I know!) [TrashCollectors] Kewl! This one I'm going to have to seriously consider, although likely not as detailed, and I don't have a mana concept to deal with. Unfortunately, my next release is almost 100% dealing with issues of the client, and not any scenario stuff. I'm spending boring time messing around with scroll bars, text clipping, etc. Ick! -- Chris Gray cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA </PRE> <!--X-Body-of-Message-End--> <!--X-MsgBody-End--> <!--X-Follow-Ups--> <HR> <!--X-Follow-Ups-End--> <!--X-References--> <!--X-References-End--> <!--X-BotPNI--> <UL> <LI>Prev by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00160.html">Re: mud grammar</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by Date: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00162.html">Re: Resets and repops</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Prev by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00159.html">Re: Resets and repops</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Next by thread: <STRONG><A HREF="msg00162.html">Re: Resets and repops</A></STRONG> </LI> <LI>Index(es): <UL> <LI><A HREF="index.html#00161"><STRONG>Date</STRONG></A></LI> <LI><A HREF="thread.html#00161"><STRONG>Thread</STRONG></A></LI> </UL> </LI> </UL> <!--X-BotPNI-End--> <!--X-User-Footer--> <!--X-User-Footer-End--> <ul><li>Thread context: <BLOCKQUOTE><UL> <LI><STRONG>Re: Resets and repops</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM> <ul compact> <LI><strong><A NAME="00154" HREF="msg00154.html">Re: Resets and repops</A></strong>, Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Fri 21 Mar 1997, 03:03 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00158" HREF="msg00158.html">Re: Resets and repops</A></strong>, claw <a href="mailto:claw#null,net">claw#null,net</a>, Fri 21 Mar 1997, 07:47 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00157" HREF="msg00157.html">Re: Resets and repops</A></strong>, claw <a href="mailto:claw#null,net">claw#null,net</a>, Fri 21 Mar 1997, 09:33 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00159" HREF="msg00159.html">Re: Resets and repops</A></strong>, Adam Wiggins <a href="mailto:nightfall#inficad,com">nightfall#inficad,com</a>, Fri 21 Mar 1997, 14:25 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00161" HREF="msg00161.html">Re: Resets and repops</A></strong>, Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Fri 21 Mar 1997, 23:49 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00162" HREF="msg00162.html">Re: Resets and repops</A></strong>, claw <a href="mailto:claw#null,net">claw#null,net</a>, Sat 22 Mar 1997, 00:56 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00163" HREF="msg00163.html">Re: Resets and repops</A></strong>, claw <a href="mailto:claw#null,net">claw#null,net</a>, Sat 22 Mar 1997, 01:43 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00164" HREF="msg00164.html">Re: Resets and repops</A></strong>, claw <a href="mailto:claw#null,net">claw#null,net</a>, Sat 22 Mar 1997, 02:32 GMT </LI> <LI><strong><A NAME="00165" HREF="msg00165.html">Re: Resets and repops</A></strong>, Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Sat 22 Mar 1997, 05:10 GMT </LI> </ul> </LI> </UL></BLOCKQUOTE> </ul> <hr> <center> [ <a href="../">Other Periods</a> | <a href="../../">Other mailing lists</a> | <a href="/search.php3">Search</a> ] </center> <hr> </body> </html>