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<LI><em>Subject</em>: Re: mud grammar </LI>
<LI><em>From</em>: <A HREF="mailto:claw#null,net">claw#null,net</A></LI>
<LI><em>Date</em>: Wed, 19 Mar 97 07:55:43 -0800</LI>
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On 17/03/97 at 06:52 PM, Nathan Yospe &lt;yospe#hawaii,edu&gt; said: &gt;On
Mon, 17 Mar 1997 claw#null,net wrote:
&gt;&gt;On 12/03/97 at 09:14 AM, Nathan Yospe &lt;yospe#hawaii,edu&gt; said: 

&gt;&gt;&gt; I use ACE :wrappers, with a telnet implementation on top of
&gt;&gt;&gt; them.
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&gt;&gt; I was hoping soneome here would use ACE.  I've been buried in
&gt;&gt; working thru OSE again to see how it compares to OpenClass and
&gt;&gt; (soon) RogueWave's STL.  ACE's lack of docs has been offputting.
&gt;
&gt;I've had some problems with OpenClass... 

What version?  What problems?  To date I've found it damn near
flawless bug/caveat-wise for the collection classes, and a heck of a
lot faster than HP's (ancient) STL. I haven't had cause to touch their
thread or user interface classes yet.

&gt; Not sure about RogueWave's
&gt; STL, or what use an STL (is it an STL, as in the Standard Template
&gt; Library implementation?) would be in threads/sockets...

STL doesn't really apply to the threaded end outside of having the
collection classes thread safe.  Currently I use OSE for all the
synchronisation and event management stuff.

&gt;&gt; What do you think of ACE?  Good?  Bad?
&gt;
&gt;Well, its a little large for practicality... 

Yup.  It appeared to me pretty much an all or nothing proposition. 

&gt;I'm trying to figure out
&gt;how to safely export the desired components... 

I spent a couple hours or so working out cross-dependancies a while
back.  I'm not really sure its worth it.

&gt;...it has a lot of very
&gt;nice features... shared memory, semaphores, importation and
&gt;exportation of ACE components... 

True -- and actively supported, maintained, and fixed.  That has a
certain attraction.

&gt;...so all ACE really ended up getting me was
&gt;threads... which is going to be a tough nut to crack writing my own
&gt;wrappers if I give up on ACE.

Every so often I think I'll just settle and get RW's STL and Threads++
libraries.  Just not yet -- contract here at Schwab is coming to an
end and I need to start hunting again.

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<LI><STRONG>Re: mud grammar</STRONG>, <EM>(continued)</EM>
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00095" HREF="msg00095.html">Re: mud grammar</A></strong>, 
Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Thu 13 Mar 1997, 03:10 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00096" HREF="msg00096.html">Re: mud grammar</A></strong>, 
Chris Gray <a href="mailto:cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA">cg#ami-cg,GraySage.Edmonton.AB.CA</a>, Thu 13 Mar 1997, 10:11 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00124" HREF="msg00124.html">Re: mud grammar</A></strong>, 
claw <a href="mailto:claw#null,net">claw#null,net</a>, Tue 18 Mar 1997, 01:26 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00130" HREF="msg00130.html">Re: mud grammar</A></strong>, 
Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Tue 18 Mar 1997, 12:53 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00142" HREF="msg00142.html">Re: mud grammar</A></strong>, 
claw <a href="mailto:claw#null,net">claw#null,net</a>, Thu 20 Mar 1997, 00:16 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00152" HREF="msg00152.html">Re: mud grammar</A></strong>, 
Jon A. Lambert <a href="mailto:jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com">jlsysinc#ix,netcom.com</a>, Thu 20 Mar 1997, 15:01 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00160" HREF="msg00160.html">Re: mud grammar</A></strong>, 
claw <a href="mailto:claw#null,net">claw#null,net</a>, Fri 21 Mar 1997, 22:32 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00167" HREF="msg00167.html">Re: mud grammar</A></strong>, 
Nathan Yospe <a href="mailto:yospe#hawaii,edu">yospe#hawaii,edu</a>, Sat 22 Mar 1997, 07:38 GMT
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<LI><strong><A NAME="00190" HREF="msg00190.html">Re: mud grammar</A></strong>, 
coder <a href="mailto:coder#ibm,net">coder#ibm,net</a>, Mon 24 Mar 1997, 04:29 GMT
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