Sender Vegeta~ Date Fri Jan 4 12:37:27 2002~ Stamp 1010176934 Expire 1010781482 To efrin~ Subject holo chamber~ Text For the holo chamber just use various races at different stages of power. There should be a speaker in the chambers (in the desc at least) that the players can speak into. What they should say is load (whatever). Just make a few things for the time being but make them hard. Maybe a ssj saiyan and an icer in 2nd or 3rd form. These are not a normal mob so make sure to set them HARD HARD. As for snakeway.......thats fine but make sure that if someone is flying they cant fall off of it. Vegeta ~ Sender Vegeta~ Date Sun Jan 6 21:14:27 2002~ Stamp 1010380599 Expire 1010985282 To efrin~ Subject a prog for ya~ Text I need you to write a rprog for me. Use vnum 5 for it. Need to to work with the new choas room flag that ko's people instead of killing them. Needs to send them to vnum 3000 when they get knocked out. Echo to the person that they wake up in the first aid room and to the people in the room that a stretcher rushes in and carrys them to the first aid room. Let me know when its done. Vegeta ~ Sender Vegeta~ Date Mon Jan 7 15:41:30 2002~ Stamp 1010447095 Expire 1011051699 To efrin~ Subject the prog~ Text The area im going to put that in isnt built yet. Its going in the arena so when someone gets knocked out they go straight to the first aid room. Let me know when you think youve got it working. vegeta ~ Sender Vegeta~ Date Wed Jan 9 22:43:38 2002~ Stamp 1010645046 Expire 1011249825 To imm~ Subject bug~ Text not sure whats happening but ill get antor on it soon as possible. Vegeta ~ Sender Vegeta~ Date Tue Jan 8 17:11:05 2002~ Stamp 1010538735 Expire 1011748272 To imm~ Subject goten~ Text Goten has been fired for multiple reason that i will not go into here. If anyone feels this is wrong come see me and i'll explain it to you. Vegeta ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Fri Jan 11 14:22:27 2002~ Stamp 1010788024 Expire 1012083764 To Efrin and Antor~ Subject BUg~ Text I know what the bug is and i cant get rid of it becuse I havent the security. It is my Refrigerator in my room (1999) anf in room (1911 or 12) the room next to the colim of ice. Please drop the the security so I may fix it. Terraco ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Tue Jan 15 02:15:37 2002~ Stamp 1011089978 Expire 1012126580 To Efrin or Vegeta or Antor~ Subject Artic~ Text The artic typoes have been fixed and the secur can be boosted again. we even changed the old mans story, and it works out gret in rp . Terraco ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Tue Jan 15 17:42:08 2002~ Stamp 1011145486 Expire 1012182143 To ALL~ Subject Me~ Text If I dont show up for a long peierod of time, my power is off and if we dont get it in my mothers name we will be evicted so I am running in to alot of probs, So if you dont see me for a long pirod of time you know why, if I stay on and you see me as much as usual then no worries. Terraco ~ Sender Vegeta~ Date Wed Jan 16 02:22:01 2002~ Stamp 1011176677 Expire 1012386128 To imm~ Subject me~ Text I realized while talking to terraco today that I havnt been around at a decent time latly and havnt gotten the chance to speak with most of you. Just writing this to let you all know im not MIA just working a bad shift for the next week and having to get on here while most of you are asleep. Just remember if you need anything (ie look over your areas, code ideas, ect) just leave me a note and ill get to it as soon as i see it. Vegetra Oh god i mispelled my own name vegeta ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Sun Jan 20 01:00:39 2002~ Stamp 1011517601 Expire 1012381280 To ALL IMMS (EMERGENCY)~ Subject EMERGENCY EMERGENCY~ Text I know what is causing crashes or at leasty part of the prob the other day I tried to asave changed and it crashed so I just thought I would let ya know Terraco ~ Sender Vegeta~ Date Thu Jan 24 06:48:12 2002~ Stamp 1011883852 Expire 1012488500 To imm~ Subject muds back up~ Text Mud was down for a bit while the server got upgraded a bit. We are back up now and slightly faster for those of you on bad connections. There is just over a week left till we open (hopefuly) so for you builders it is officaly crunch time. Some of you will be getting pulled off your current projects to help out some of the other areas that are more needed at this point. Ill be here all day so let me know when you guys get here and see if i have anything new for you to do. Vegeta ~ Sender Vegeta~ Date Tue Feb 5 21:19:56 2002~ Stamp 1012972910 Expire 1013577611 To imm~ Subject the tourny~ Text This is for the people wondering about the imms competing in the tourny. You may use your mortal for the tourny. You will, of course, have to qualify to get one of the spots. Vegeta ~ Sender Akira~ Date Wed Feb 20 20:35:55 2002~ Stamp 1014266325 Expire 1014525382 To everyone~ Subject rp system~ Text well i have an idea about an rp system, that i have gotten good replys form freind and such, well this is the idea you have it where you get 40 rp points for each char every 24 rather it resets back to 40 after 24 hours, and what you do is try to get other pc to rpaward you anywhere form 1-5 rp points and when you get 100 rp points gained form others it resets back to 0 and you get 10 trains, that way if you want you can rp and get extr trains, but if you don't want to rp your not forced too, anyways if you need help with the coding for that, i know a few poeple that can help us along with that Akira Thanks ~ Sender Vegeta~ Date Wed Feb 20 01:56:21 2002~ Stamp 1014199469 Expire 1014803801 To imm~ Subject Tourny/clans/meetings~ Text Ok heres the deal. Myself, Terraco, Antor, and Majinfred will be the clan imms now. Any of you that are not going to be may compete in the tourny though when/if you do get a clan you will have to have your outcasted from the clan. Those with clans you can not have char's in other clans. Doesnt seem right to be spying like that. I need antor, terraco, and majinfred to note me with a name for thier clan. You can wait til the tourny to decide the more detailed parts if you want. Last there is going to be a staff meeting right before the tourny so please note me and let me know you all can be here on saturday and sunday and ill try to pick a time thats good for the most people. Also if any mortals note you about having you get them in the tourny it is because it will be people that we feel deserve a shot at having a clan here. If you get one check it, if its not IC dont get them in. If its IC tell me about it at the meeting. Vegeta ~ Sender Vegeta~ Date Wed Feb 20 21:01:36 2002~ Stamp 1014267910 Expire 1014872502 To imm~ Subject head~ Text Today, to help things become as much rp as possible, it was decided that a rp char with no ties to any other imm activitys was made for the purpose of building homes/clanhalls. His name is head so if you see him dont run up introducing yourself cause its an imm you already know. This password will be given ut on a need to know basis. If you do get a job requiring him do not log him in for any reason other then to build and do not converse with the mortals as him. Got your own imm char's for that. Vegeta ~ Sender Vegeta~ Date Thu Feb 21 13:09:25 2002~ Stamp 1014325934 Expire 1014930583 To imm~ Subject tourny/meeting~ Text The tournyament is going to be at 5pm est on sunday. You folks that can be here that day (need atleast 3 of you other then me) try to get here about 4pm because we are having a staff meeting. Due to the lack of time i gave you all to make it im not gonna be mad if you miss unless i see your mortal on and no imm. Got some important things to talk about. If you cant make it please try to let me know ahead of time. Vegeta ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Sun Feb 17 17:16:04 2002~ Stamp 1013995018 Expire 1015031776 To Vegeta~ Subject ser's house~ Text he would like the house set east of the souther entrance so do what ya gotta do. terraco ~ Sender Vegeta~ Date Sun Feb 17 00:01:41 2002~ Stamp 1013932957 Expire 1015142509 To imm~ Subject new builders~ Text Today i hired videl (kyja) and akira (devilry). You folks know the deal. Help them if they need it and let me know how they are doing. Vegeta ~ Sender Buu~ Date Thu Jan 3 13:23:35 2002~ Stamp 1010093045 Expire 1015277022 To Efrin~ Subject My area~ Text I have to do my eq still but could you check out 700 so far? thanks Buu ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Thu Feb 14 11:52:13 2002~ Stamp 1013716607 Expire 1015444348 To imm~ Subject devrily~ Text Devilery needs to be set back to 742,804 PL he took on Freeza when I was working on him and teseting him out, I said any one who wants to watch can come and watch can, but devirly had to all the sudden attack him so I trnasferd freeza out and told him he is gonna lose any PL gained off freeza witch was around 20K. I ended my testing and went on do other stuff. Terraco (I need to stop being such a NICE guy) ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Tue Feb 12 16:47:44 2002~ Stamp 1013561419 Expire 1016153282 To Vegeta/ALL~ Subject PKs~ Text Vegeta/all, the help file could use a bit of changing. I should include (you have to have an IC resson to kill a person with a KILLER flag, becuse most are obtained on accedent. Please take this into consideration for the fact that no one is just uped and killed. Terraco @ ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Thu Feb 28 22:14:10 2002~ Stamp 1014963288 Expire 1016691261 To ALL~ Subject Kick~ Text Hey is the kick supposed to have 5 second delay on it???????? terraco ~ Sender Rika~ Date Tue Mar 12 14:31:23 2002~ Stamp 1015972431 Expire 1017181890 To imm~ Subject Meeting~ Text It of importance that we have a meeting about Frost. He seems to be giving some imms trouble. Thank you for your time Rika,The Icerian Prophet ~ Sender Vegeta~ Date Thu Mar 14 15:50:39 2002~ Stamp 1016150017 Expire 1017359451 To imm~ Subject Final Word~ Text I have delt with frost. Let him be for the time being. It may be a little longer til i am back full time but im sure efrin and goku are capable of handling the building situation til i return (thats why they have the good jobs). For the time being i want those not building on a earth area to be working on planet namek. Keep in mind that it is a very nature oriented place. The rp majin started is fine but since he started it he has to come up with the rest of it or atleast help it along. Leave me notes if you guys need me. Vegeta ~ Sender Antor~ Date Fri Feb 1 09:32:49 2002~ Stamp 1012584810 Expire 1017768774 To imm~ Subject cheating~ Text We are open now (YEAH!) but as a reminder.... NO CHEATING!!! ie using your imm to help your mortal. Thanks, and have a nice day! ~ Sender Antor~ Date Sat Feb 2 08:47:25 2002~ Stamp 1012668512 Expire 1017852456 To imm~ Subject resets in training area~ Text Anyone know how to get the small androids in the training area on earth to reset at 3 per room? I can't figure it out. If someone can do it (ie Efrin) please do. ~ Sender MajinFred~ Date Sun Feb 3 08:10:51 2002~ Stamp 1012753029 Expire 1017936674 To imm~ Subject re:resets in training area~ Text I'm thinking that it would be with the reset command: reset <reset_#> mob <mob_vnum> <max_#_mobs_to_reset> or in this case -> reset 1 mob 202 3 (of course, you can put more than 3) MajinFred ~ Sender Antor~ Date Mon Feb 4 17:38:18 2002~ Stamp 1012873163 Expire 1018057106 To imm~ Subject playering killing~ Text I added NO PLAYERKILLING to the rules. They were too vague, people were complaining and attacking people, so I just stopped it. Once we have clearer rules and enforce them, we can reinstate playerkilling. ~ Sender Antor~ Date Tue Feb 5 12:53:39 2002~ Stamp 1012942460 Expire 1018126425 To imm~ Subject crystal stuff~ Text Uhhh, why is the crystal stuff (mall, Satan city), so damned powerful? Im going to tone it down, if anyone objects, tell me. ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Thu Feb 14 17:09:04 2002~ Stamp 1013735557 Expire 1018055353 To imm~ Subject Hama~ Text I would like to express my unhappyness with Hama's conduct on the mud stuff like makeing fun of another players title and tell me to blow him i would like to see some thing done I put him in ROOM 10 but I cant nochanles him. he is serously upseting the RPs that are going on by the constant babble on the ooc channle Terraco ~ Sender Parn~ Date Wed Feb 6 00:56:42 2002~ Stamp 1012986012 Expire 1018169812 To antor vegeta~ Subject cheating~ Text ok bug and cheating.. i saw majinfred on.. and he has a alt dakal.. he was fighting with rimouski? sp? and both had pl set to 1. anyway dakal was gaining PL eventough he was missing and one is a imm anyway thought you would like to know.. btw i killed both of them and then purged them.. *shrug* parn ~ Sender Parn~ Date Wed Feb 6 01:02:52 2002~ Stamp 1012986228 Expire 1018170184 To antor vegeta~ Subject ok they did it again so i kileld them both~ Text ok they did it again.. you would of figured they would of stopped.. no.. they kept doing it. and wondered what was going on.. anyway i killed them both again and this time froze majin's alt.. its up to you what you wanna do with them and what not... parn ~ Sender Parn~ Date Wed Feb 6 01:09:08 2002~ Stamp 1012986608 Expire 1018170568 To antor vegeta~ Subject umm got alts mixed up~ Text it wasn't dakal.. it was rimouski that is majinfred's alt :P so froze rimouski and unfroze dakal.. so majinfred was helping dakal gain pl parn ~ Sender Efrin~ Date Wed Feb 6 05:02:10 2002~ Stamp 1013000626 Expire 1018184536 To all~ Subject My Absence~ Text I know that this is at a really bad time, the mud being open and all, and I'm sorry. Just wanted to let everyone know that I AM NOT leaving permanantly and just need some time to resolve some personal things that are happening in real life. My advice to everyone, if any of you suspect a loved one is doing drugs, talk to them, even if they get pissed off at you. Don't let it get too far, it can ruin lives. Be safe and have fun guys. I look forward to coming back, although I'm not sure how long I'll have to be away. Hope to see you all soon. Efrin ~ Sender Antor~ Date Wed Feb 6 13:12:46 2002~ Stamp 1013030003 Expire 1018213969 To imm~ Subject things~ Text A couple things. Is there supposed to be a shop in Hell, selling a bunch of weapons? Is there anything for people in the 50-150k pl range to kill? ~ Sender Parn~ Date Tue Feb 12 02:08:03 2002~ Stamp 1013508533 Expire 1018692490 To antor~ Subject ssj5~ Text heya.. bug i think.. when i went ssj5 i gained 210,000 ki and hp but when i did a revert i lost 210,015 ki and hp. so i lost hp and ki in total when i reverted back parn ~ Sender Parn~ Date Tue Feb 12 02:09:39 2002~ Stamp 1013508619 Expire 1018692587 To antor~ Subject ssj all of them~ Text ok found out that anytime i go ssj1-5 and revert i gain the 210000 and lost the 210015 when i revert parn ~ Sender Parn~ Date Tue Feb 12 02:11:04 2002~ Stamp 1013508766 Expire 1018692672 To antor~ Subject mobs pl~ Text ok saw a bio android fighting a huge? android mob the mob was at pl of uhh forget.. but lets say like 1,500,000 and the char was at 500,000 err the player is at 1,000,000 but anyway the mob did a power up but only to 750,000 half of what the mob could of gone to. might wanan fix this cuz ppl are killing mobs too easily since they dont powerup all the way. parn ~ Sender Parn~ Date Tue Feb 12 02:17:31 2002~ Stamp 1013509107 Expire 1018693057 To antor~ Subject ssjstuff~ Text ok my stats were all negative. dunno why.. but i changed them all to 500.. and i gain a lot more hp.. but i do still lose an exta bit.. i gain now 35000000 but i lose 35002500 parn ~ Sender Antor~ Date Wed Feb 13 18:13:22 2002~ Stamp 1013652893 Expire 1018836808 To imm~ Subject crashes~ Text The crashes are due to the Grand Kai. When Pikkon is killed, the Grand Kai isn't loaded properly etc etc and bad stuff happens. So, I removed Pikkon. DO NOT make any mprogs that load other mobs that do stuff, otherwise it may crash. This is a big ugly bug in our wonderfully buggy prog code ... Ill see what I can do ~ Sender Antor~ Date Wed Feb 13 18:28:28 2002~ Stamp 1013653781 Expire 1018837719 To imm~ Subject pikkon and bugs part II~ Text What doesnt someone change Pikkon so he transfers the player to a room with the Grand Kai in it? This would work essentially the same. ~ Sender Parn~ Date Thu Feb 14 01:34:49 2002~ Stamp 1013679409 Expire 1018863297 To imm~ Subject crashes pfiles gone etc..~ Text umm yeah found out why my char kept getting deleted.. it wasn't a password problem.. the pfiles were being saved as a 0 KB file.. the reason for this is that you guys need to clean up your backups etc.. you were over the 1.1 gig for hdd space.. thats why files were not saving.. so when a player came on.. and then quit his pfile went to 0 kb because of the mud being over quota i cleaned some stuff up.. like log files etc.. so you are now at like 900 megs.. but you are gonna wanna clean it up some more... parn ~ Sender Parn~ Date Thu Feb 14 13:50:26 2002~ Stamp 1013723523 Expire 1018907437 To antor vegeta~ Subject pfile bug etc.. part2~ Text ok found the file that was huge.. last_command.txt it was 800 megs big :P just a bunch of repeated stuff like last command at xxxx trezen: home blahblahb for like 100's of pages of the same thing.. i deleted it and now you are only at 45megs or so... wow.. 800 meg text file... ouch... parn ~ Sender Videl~ Date Mon Feb 18 16:05:03 2002~ Stamp 1014077187 Expire 1019261112 To imm~ Subject next few days...~ Text Won't be on the next three days. having to go into homework panic mode inorder to try and get everything done. Got two large programs to write and a mess load of stuff to grade. Videl. ~ Sender MajinFred~ Date Wed Feb 20 05:36:14 2002~ Stamp 1014212632 Expire 1019396225 To vegeta~ Subject re: Tourny/clans/meetings~ Text hi vegeta. I am not totally sure about being able to make on Saturday or sunday. If I do, then great, but if not well... I dunno I had come up with "Nation of Domination", or even something along the line of "Disciples of <insert something here>" Well... I'll have time to figure something out by then, I'll post them. If absolutly necessary IF I'm not there on either days, you can give my spot to another. Majinfred ~ Sender Goku~ Date Wed Feb 20 13:42:51 2002~ Stamp 1014241456 Expire 1019425383 To imm~ Subject fox~ Text Fox was killed by an android but while she was dead she got killed again. While she was in snakeway. Ive seen it before just wanted to bring it up. ~ Sender Efrin~ Date Thu Feb 21 05:04:07 2002~ Stamp 1014296742 Expire 1019480654 To me~ Subject me~ Text Hey guys, The place looks great and it's really taking off. I really wish that I had the time to be around, but with everything that's going on IRL, I just can't make the time. It's not really fair to the other guys who are here all the time, so I'll understand if you delete my imm... That being said, when I can log on, I'll do my best to look over current areas and give suggestions where I see fit. I'll also try to RP with the morts a little. :P Have fun guys, you're making a really great MUD. You should all be proud of yourselves. Efrin ~ Sender MajinFred~ Date Thu Feb 21 21:01:35 2002~ Stamp 1014354581 Expire 1019538104 To Vegeta~ Subject Clan~ Text Hey. here's a few thoughts I've had for the clan... -no race restriction (but one is needed halfbreed saiyans and humans are prefered) -a minimum of 50 hours online and/or a minimum pl of 50,000 -maybe a cash donation also (50,000 zenni or maybe lower)*not sure yet* Was thinking of making the first of my "clannies" decide of a name they want to have, put it up to a vote within all of them. that's all I have for now MajinFred ~ Sender Efrin~ Date Fri Feb 22 12:11:03 2002~ Stamp 1014408875 Expire 1019592670 To imm~ Subject a quest~ Text i was on today for about 10 min, in which I ran a quest for armor. nothing major, just a suit of saiyan armor. i accidently put the first in the room with some guy, he had been wandering about pretty fast and I thought I'd drop it really quick and he'd go right by it... he found it so I made a second set and gave it to the Satan mob. I'm not sure if anyone's found it yet... these should be the only 2 of these in existance... it's obj vnum 999... i checked over a few of the areas... looking good. could use some more progs... i'll write a few next time i'm on and let you look over them and decide if you want them for certain mobs... thanks for finishing satan city (or cleaning it up for me) it looks great. Remeber to asave changed....this will go very far for all of you in NOT losing info. I got on today and the one namek area wasn't saved... not good... we could crash... just keep that in mind everyone. *is going to try to be around more often, but can only do as much as real life will allow* Efrin ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Fri Feb 22 21:50:45 2002~ Stamp 1014443550 Expire 1019627471 To Antor or Vegeta~ Subject Security~ Text Vegeta Antor Videl has not got the security to redit any area I have and would ask one of you to raise her level please. Terraco ~ Sender Videl~ Date Sat Feb 23 15:29:07 2002~ Stamp 1014507071 Expire 1019690960 To imm~ Subject I have no power~ Text I was going to do some spellchecking on Terraco's area, but when I tried to edit a room, I was told I didn't have enough security to edit that area. Majinfred checked on me, and apparently, I have NO editing rights at all right now. Please give me some editing rights so I can get some work done. :) Videl ~ Sender Efrin~ Date Tue Feb 26 21:24:30 2002~ Stamp 1014787580 Expire 1019971476 To IMM~ Subject me~ Text Hey this is a long story, but I'm sorry for everything said written or done by my char over the past couple months. I've been working double shifts and taking care of my sister, so I haven't been around much. She was logging on Efrin... she did dumb things... please disregard all those dumb things. She's done this before... it will NEVER happen again. I'm back now and areas WILL be reviewed and I'm here to help on Progs. Keep up the good work, and I"m back to help you out Goku. Vegeta and Antor... get ready for the notes. Efrin ~ Sender Efrin~ Date Tue Feb 26 21:32:17 2002~ Stamp 1014787976 Expire 1019971944 To imm~ Subject quest area~ Text area 32, 3700-3799 is a new area, it will constantly change as it is an area designed for quests use it wisely, it's only for security 9 and up. Efrin ~ Sender Efrin~ Date Wed Feb 27 09:57:11 2002~ Stamp 1014832713 Expire 1020016640 To imm~ Subject holo chamber~ Text ok, it's still being tested, but here's the deal. for your quest stuff... DON"T touch vnums 3790 on. Those are the ones I'm using for the holochamber. It is NOT linked at the moment and I don't know if it will be. I kinda like it as a quest thing, but hey, we can talk more about that later. Just for now, don't use 3790-3799... Efrin ~ Sender Efrin~ Date Thu Feb 28 05:22:29 2002~ Stamp 1014902712 Expire 1020086558 To imm~ Subject my area (satan city)~ Text Ok, here's the thing, I took great pains to set it up so that each faucet of Satan City was a SEPERATE area than the main roads that went all around Satan City... this was done for a reason... when I made all my mobs I made them all act STAY_AREA... this way, they were in a different area and Felipe, who belongs in the police station, wouldn't run all over the city... the same with doctors and nurses and any mob that logically would go with a specific part of Satan City.... Whoever changed them... go back and change them back... (not every mob, but the ones you changed) I'd like the city purged and then reset as well. Right now, it looks very cluttered with all the mobs running all over the place... i'm going to be looking at the resets as well... Efrin ~ Sender Efrin~ Date Thu Feb 28 05:29:09 2002~ Stamp 1014903047 Expire 1020086953 To imm~ Subject heaven~ Text Ok, Terraco, this was your baby, so I'm leaving it to you to fix it. When a player goes to enter heaven they must type "YES PLEASE" not just "YES" (or is it for the grand kai's plane...) well anyway, this should be changed to just "YES" unless you have a good reason for it to be what it is... I like the area a lot though and am proud of you for the progs you did in it. You've come a long way with your building skills. Keep up the good work. Efrin ~ Sender Efrin~ Date Thu Feb 28 05:30:49 2002~ Stamp 1014903082 Expire 1020087058 To antor~ Subject mplist all~ Text Ok, we need a MPLIST ALL command so I can review progs easier. It would really make my job go a lot faster. Thanks. Efrin ~ Sender Efrin~ Date Thu Feb 28 05:32:00 2002~ Stamp 1014903161 Expire 1020087125 To imm~ Subject me~ Text BTW... i need restored to my full level and everything. I got Terraco to give me a quick fix, my damn sister deleted my char at the end of her reign of insanity. *hates sisters* Efrin ~ Sender Efrin~ Date Thu Feb 28 05:34:34 2002~ Stamp 1014903365 Expire 1020087279 To imm~ Subject crashes~ Text Not sure why they've been happening so often, I know why one did (my fault forgot to rename the filename) but Parn said he deleted an area0.0 file... perhaps this has something to do with it... Also, it always seems to happen when I am autoloading powerful mobs for quests... perhaps it's their PL or maybe it's the names I'm using. If there are any names (other than player/imm names) I shouldn't use, please list them. Efrin ~ Sender Parn~ Date Fri Mar 1 17:41:26 2002~ Stamp 1015033441 Expire 1020217297 To imm~ Subject sparring sphere~ Text imms while in the sparring sphere please stay wiz invis do not goto the sphere while vis if you do stay at 100% pl if you go link dead in the sphere, people will attack your imm char and get massive power level gains since you are linkdead what not ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Sat Mar 2 23:51:02 2002~ Stamp 1015142096 Expire 1020325890 To Efrin Vegeta Goku or Antor~ Subject IMM~ Text I have found a person who has built for four years, even gave me alist of muds worked on Rebellion, wildlands2,naturesfury, rebellion of stars, cruel world and sinistrad the mort of the person is Myrlin and is useing the name gotanks and is at level 2, so if you want to do anything about it you can I just hope you like the persons building skills and such, he wont have a very high security so he cant change nothing till you get here and set him up an area Terraco ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Sat Mar 2 23:55:54 2002~ Stamp 1015142217 Expire 1020326166 To ALL~ Subject new imm~ Text OK so i set him to three but he sitll wont have the security till you set him for it and give him a trial area ~ Sender Antor~ Date Sun Mar 3 16:48:18 2002~ Stamp 1015202933 Expire 1020386905 To efrin~ Subject quest command~ Text There is a new quest command...try it out. <quest cancel> removes the quest flags from everyone. ~ Sender MajinFred~ Date Mon Mar 4 07:00:50 2002~ Stamp 1015254459 Expire 1020438075 To imm~ Subject ultra scouters~ Text Hey I've just been asked by a mortal to make him a ultra scouter. Now, just before I get myself into trouble giving him one, I'd like to know if there are conditions for mortals to get one , or something I have to do so the imms(or just vegeta?) know who has one and who gave it to him/her. Majinfred ~ Sender Videl~ Date Mon Mar 4 10:30:59 2002~ Stamp 1015266827 Expire 1020450676 To imm~ Subject ultra scouters~ Text Bassiclly the same question as Majin. We either need to place the scouters in a shop, or have a clear policy on how to hand them out. I just got asked by Raven. I told him on the basis of a pl of 20k doesn't need one. .h oops, guess notes don't get help :p And that should be 'told him no on' Videl ~ Sender Antor~ Date Mon Mar 4 13:25:32 2002~ Stamp 1015277291 Expire 1020461138 To imm~ Subject ultra scouters~ Text As far as Im concerned, no one should be receving ultra scouters. I made one for myself, only for my use. Its maximum PL and indestructible, so players shouldnt be getting one. We do need a shop with higher level scouters, but no one should be asking for one. ~ Sender Efrin~ Date Tue Mar 5 04:36:05 2002~ Stamp 1015331898 Expire 1020515772 To imm~ Subject requests~ Text i just posted a note to the morts and now they should stop asking for free eq. If they ask, tell me, i'll handle it. General policy should be, THEY AREN'T GIVEN ANYTHING. If you are an IMM that's allowed to run quests, then you are allowed to give reasonable rewards out for your quest. Nothing should exceed -75 ac, no more than 5 trains, and no more than 5000 zenni. Raising stats, PL, rage, giving ssj (transforms), or anything greater than described above is inappropriate. Efrin ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Thu Mar 7 21:33:39 2002~ Stamp 1015565776 Expire 1020749635 To ALL~ Subject not so new imm~ Text Hey ppl I ran ran across a builder from the pased that all you older imms he now gose by Tholetho, and was DBA's original Goku, He is at level 3 and under watch on the room desc cuse he forgot how to build. If you dont agree with this I will drop him back down and take all he has. terraco ~ Sender Videl~ Date Sun Mar 10 09:34:00 2002~ Stamp 1015781721 Expire 1020965647 To imm~ Subject Trial area~ Text My trial area (vnum 3341-3360) has been completed as far as the rooms go. I'll be editing the rooms/working on mobs for the next few days, but if someone could do a walkthrough and check it out, I'd appriciate it. Videl ~ Sender Videl~ Date Sun Mar 10 10:39:40 2002~ Stamp 1015785680 Expire 1020969587 To imm~ Subject act programs~ Text The act programs need help. bad. About the only way a mob can be made challanging is to make it a ki warrior. This makes NO sense for dinosaurs and such. We need an act program that will allow a mob to charge to max as soon as battle starts. If you need help with the coding, I'll try to help out, but I'll need the basic format of the act programs. Videl ~ Sender Videl~ Date Sun Mar 10 10:57:26 2002~ Stamp 1015786704 Expire 1020970651 To imm~ Subject hacker?~ Text Not sure if they're just playing, or if they're serious, but hama accused Jayden of being a character hacker on another mud, and he said yes. We need to keep an eye on him. Dang, three notes in one day :p Videl. ~ Sender Videl~ Date Sun Mar 10 11:46:00 2002~ Stamp 1015789586 Expire 1020973566 To imm~ Subject Jayden and Hama~ Text Both of these players are problem players and need to be watched. Videl. ~ Sender Videl~ Date Sun Mar 10 12:05:47 2002~ Stamp 1015790802 Expire 1020974756 To imm~ Subject Bane~ Text Warned Bane against swearing. He proceeded to swear back at me. I transed him to room 6 and nochanneled him. He then dropped his link. So next time he logs in, he'll still be there. Videl. ~ Sender Efrin~ Date Mon Mar 11 04:26:36 2002~ Stamp 1015849709 Expire 1021033605 To IMM~ Subject Disturbances~ Text If anyone does anything way out of line, such as what happened to Videl, you guys trans them to room 2299, and nochan them. 2299 is a black hole. Leave a note like Videl did, and then Vegeta or Antor, Goku or I will handle it next time we see the little twerp. If someone curses at you.... be severe. That's a big no no. No yelling/cursing screaming at my hard-working builders, we WON'T tolerate that. Efrin ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Tue Mar 12 08:46:40 2002~ Stamp 1015951746 Expire 1021135614 To \Efrin~ Subject Nukelus~ Text Hey this Nkelus persond has been MIA (as vegeta outs it) for some time now and no one has seen him since he left a week or 2 ago I dont know how to deal with stuff like that so I leave it to you Terraco ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Tue Mar 12 17:51:20 2002~ Stamp 1015984348 Expire 1021168293 To Vegeta~ Subject Forest~ Text Hey vegeta I would like to know where to link the forest to so they will quit bugging the staff about new areas it is as done as it is gonna get terraco ~ Sender MajinFred~ Date Wed Mar 13 01:40:12 2002~ Stamp 1016013240 Expire 1021196471 To imm~ Subject RP storyline~ Text hey all I have inadvertantly started a storyline while having a little practice RPing with a player. He wrote up the "dream" that my character had given him (board stories, note 3 for the dream he had) that I somewhat encouraged. This is to ask those in charge for quests, that if possible, if any quests are held to maybe push that it's training for the "upcoming menace". I have no idea if there will be a gift other than the praise of other players for saving the earth, but if there will be a prize of some sort, I will let you know(those that really must know, leave a note and you'll be amongst the firsts to receive the info). Any other details will be noted/posted(or even sent if necessary) to those that must know about every detail. Majinfred ~ Sender Tholetho~ Date Thu Mar 14 04:25:23 2002~ Stamp 1016108836 Expire 1021292753 To imm~ Subject Frost/amta~ Text Well I think Frost's note to Terra was rude and outta line, if not done alread i think he should be nochanneled and in room 10, or whiever room theres no way out, for a while, just my 2 cents, but he shouldnt be able to treat the imms that way. ~ Sender Efrin~ Date Thu Mar 14 04:49:55 2002~ Stamp 1016110268 Expire 1021294201 To imm~ Subject Stuff~ Text First off, I will deal with Frost. Secondly, I like the RP Majin, make the prize you want and let me look at it, keep me posted on how the quest develops and goes... sounds really fun. :P Third, nice to have you back Goku. If you need anything, note me, I'm reviewing areas... they look great. Thanks for all your hard work. Efrin ~ Sender Videl~ Date Thu Mar 14 07:19:28 2002~ Stamp 1016119325 Expire 1021303173 To imm~ Subject Frost~ Text Ease up off frost. As someone who was present at the time, there was plenty of blame to go around. That's all I have to say about the incident. Plus, both Frost AND Terraco admit they overreacted. I also propose this, since Ultra Scouters were part of the problem. We either allow players to get them at a certain level, or we declare them Imm eq only and strip them from ALL players that have them. Videl ~ Sender Videl~ Date Thu Mar 14 12:00:35 2002~ Stamp 1016136118 Expire 1021320042 To imm~ Subject Planet Vegeta~ Text I wanna build it :) My little trial area is done. Only one mob, but hey, with the few rooms I had, didn't make to much sense to put more in. So, could I please be allowed to work on building planet Vegeta? Thanks. Videl. ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Tue Apr 16 00:40:44 2002~ Stamp 1018943052 Expire 1021362073 To all~ Subject kahless and teclan~ Text hey keep an eye on kahless and telcan they multi linked and fuse with each and dinked around in the sparring sphere I sent them to 2299 about 5 mins and then then made them quit one or the other and they did they got a warning and 5 in the hole so I guess from this point its up to you higher level imms now terraco ~ Sender Zamajai~ Date Thu May 9 11:32:21 2002~ Stamp 1020969255 Expire 1021401159 To imm~ Subject Knight~ Text This note is bout Knight dying to get into heaven and the progs are messed up right now so you can't get out or anything so I transed him to the sign and I'm going to trans him back when the progs are fixed cause he wanted to go there just thought I'd tell everyone so you wouldn't think I was doing a favor for a mort. <-ZamajaI-> ~ Sender Tholetho~ Date Sun Mar 17 11:44:40 2002~ Stamp 1016394327 Expire 1021578285 To imm~ Subject Mobs~ Text Hey can i make a mob like 7mil or 80mil more for ppl stronger then 75mil? maybe? cause alot of ppl seem bored. ~ Sender Tholetho~ Date Sun Mar 17 11:47:59 2002~ Stamp 1016394551 Expire 1021578486 To imm~ Subject mobs~ Text Just so they dont get bored how about i make 3 mobs, 10 mil, 40mil, then 100mil and leave them in the sparting room? just so ppl have something to do? ~ Sender Tholetho~ Date Sun Mar 17 13:02:41 2002~ Stamp 1016399165 Expire 1021582971 To imm~ Subject telstarin~ Text ' i nochanneled telstarin for an hour, Telstarin oocs 'stfu' Telstarin oocs 'I don't have to say anything to you, I'll just think mean things You ooc '???' You ooc '???' You ooc '???' Telstarin oocs 'I don't have to say anything to you, I'll just think mean things You ooc 'well one more thing like that and i have nochan:P' Telstarin oocs 'Ha, then I'll post a note about immortals who abuse their powers Frost oocs 'Hey, I did that ^^' Telstarin oocs 'I'll follow suit ) your right Frost' i dont like the way he talked If he wants to write that note fin, he'll explain how and why but i dont think he should talk like that or threaten. its nothign too serious just 1 hour. ~ Sender Antor~ Date Sun Mar 17 13:38:14 2002~ Stamp 1016401145 Expire 1021585101 To imm~ Subject Builders~ Text Builders, please build. Just build. We need building done and others will worry about other things. Remember: builders=build. Bye ~ Sender Antor~ Date Sun Mar 17 14:00:39 2002~ Stamp 1016402662 Expire 1021586453 To imm~ Subject 'disciplining'~ Text Everyone, please do not be so stringent with how you discipline players. Only nochannel them in the most extreme cases, such as constant, blatant, excessive swearing. If they disagree with you, shrug it off. Players play here to have fun. There have been many reports of immortals abusing their powers, some of which I believe. If the players aren't having fun, they will leave. So be a little bit more controlled when you do something. Also, BUILD BUILD BUILD. People are getting bored because they have nothing to do. We need more areas availble for them! ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Sun Mar 17 14:32:45 2002~ Stamp 1016404609 Expire 1021588379 To ALL~ Subject Sparring Spher~ Text I think it is time to kill the spher for a while I can proved several good examples why it should be shut down for a while. Name : Kid Sex : male Race : half-breed Age : 20 Hours : 77 Plvl : 0/45157932 (0%) Telstarin says 'OOC: 96 hours' Telstarin says 'OOC: me? I'm only 36mill noraml max Terraco ~ Sender Nukelus~ Date Thu Mar 14 20:30:44 2002~ Stamp 1016166862 Expire 1024806684 To imm~ Subject Me~ Text Ok, I'm sorry I haven't been as active as I was at first. I haven't had alot of free time. I work full time and have 18 credits worth of college classes I attend *oi* But i'll be getting a little more active here at the begining of april. Last weekend of March I have a Gaming Tournament I'm supposed to compete in. But after that I'll finish up my area. I just wanted to let you know I am still doing little things to the area and thinking up ideas for it, just lettin ya know i'm alive <<G>> ~ Sender Tholetho~ Date Mon Mar 18 11:26:29 2002~ Stamp 1016479650 Expire 1021663597 To imm~ Subject sparring~ Text its ok if u do, however the sphere is all they have for now, i think it'd make some ppl leave or be pissed off, since not much is being built they dont have anyhtign else to do, its also a good place to train their skills... ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Mon Mar 18 15:32:33 2002~ Stamp 1016494810 Expire 1021678371 To IMMs~ Subject Cheat~ Text Please read this carfully AlphaLord tells you 'you are a builder. A friend told me that you boosted he's power to 1,000,000. If this is true I would like it if you could do this for me AlphaLord tells you 'I am new to this' AlphaLord tells you 'PLZ at about 7 pm. PLEASE' AlphaLord tells you 'I must go now. PLEASE do this for me I will tell no one' reply I will NOT do that AlphaLord seems to have misplaced his link...try again later terraco ~ Sender MajinFred~ Date Mon Mar 18 23:12:27 2002~ Stamp 1016522176 Expire 1021705975 To efrin~ Subject changes I made~ Text Hi efrin. Just letting you know that I've changed the resets in Satan city that had put a max of 500 mobs in one room. I thought 500 was a bit excessive and lowered it to 10 for the time being, but I willput it back, or raise it to something below 500, if I have to. I still have the list of which mob they were, and in which rooms the resets were, so it wouldnt be to bad to put it back the way it was. Majinfred ~ Sender MajinFred~ Date Tue Mar 19 00:26:37 2002~ Stamp 1016526529 Expire 1021710413 To imm~ Subject re:cheat~ Text hey guys, just something to let you know about... AlphaLord tells you 'Are Imms aloud to give PL out' You say 'AlphaLord... no... I cannot give PL to players, I will not give PL to players, and if you ask another immortal, you might get slain...' I thought of letting him know what would/will happen should he ask, or even insinuate, again. Majinfred ~ Sender Videl~ Date Tue Mar 19 08:14:13 2002~ Stamp 1016554556 Expire 1021738458 To imm~ Subject Areas~ Text Ok, what exactly needs to be worked on that doesn't have someone assigned to it? I know we're suppose to work on Namek/Earth, but I don't know which parts are open right now. Videl @ Bah, I hate getting confused with the note editor vs the build editor :p ~ Sender Tholetho~ Date Tue Mar 19 11:29:23 2002~ Stamp 1016566286 Expire 1021750172 To imm~ Subject areas~ Text Well Videl i'm currently "finished" with namek, although im gonna have a few extra things done, and if Terraco can t do it im trying to find out how to make a mob talk and how to make it respond to things, i know its a rprog and speech for talking but i need to ' experiment before getting it. done @ .h damn it all the things should have the same way of ending :P ~ Sender MajinFred~ Date Tue Mar 19 20:12:48 2002~ Stamp 1016597801 Expire 1021781606 To imm~ Subject sites that might help with building~ Text Hey all. Here are a few sites that I've found that have helped me quite a bit build and make mobprogs. Although they are directed for other MUD's, the examples they give will work here. http://www.aww-mud.org/mobprog.html http://www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/Dome/4876/ http://home.inreach.com/citron/aardwolf/builders/ Just thinking, but maybe there could be a helpfile that could have a bunch of sites that could help with building and mobprogs. Majinfred ~ Sender MajinFred~ Date Wed Mar 20 02:16:36 2002~ Stamp 1016619974 Expire 1021803445 To vegeta efrin~ Subject AlphaLord~ Text Here's a brief log of what happened during a little conversation that happened after AlphaLord asked me to help him... well, better let the log say it... {gAlphaLord says 'Why what did i do.' You say 'AlphaLord says 'majinfred Help me please'' You say 'Pyro says 'no accepting help from imms'' You say 'Pyro says 'no giving help to mortals'' You say 'AlphaLord says 'Please majinfred PLEASE'' You say 'You say '(-OOC-) yup... it says that in the rules.. cant help and you cant accept the help'' You say 'AlphaLord says 'can't you break the rules please'' You say 'You say 'nope'' AlphaLord says 'I was joking' You say 'kinda hard to tell if you were, dont you think?' AlphaLord says 'I checked the rules stright after that' Terraco says 'was that what you said to me befor a joke aswell?' Terraco says 'I dont give pl to players' AlphaLord says 'which part' AlphaLord says 'no I was talking to waylander' Terraco says 'AlphaLord tells you 'you are a builder. A friend told me that you boosted he's power to 1,000,000. If this is true I would like it if you could do this for me' AlphaLord says 'that was I joke' Terraco says 'AlphaLord tells you 'I am new to this'' Terraco says 'AlphaLord tells you 'PLZ at about 7 pm. PLEASE'' AlphaLord says 'but a said you did' AlphaLord says 'I was Joke' Terraco says 'AlphaLord tells you 'I must go now. PLEASE do this for me I will tell no one'' AlphaLord says 'Yes it was a very bad joke but it was a joke' {xTerraco decided not to incinerate him, and considered it his 1st warning. Majinfred ~ Sender Efrin~ Date Wed Mar 20 04:36:36 2002~ Stamp 1016628111 Expire 1021811804 To imm~ Subject Stuff...~ Text Majinfred, put the resets back to 500... remember that that's for the entire area... not just that room... actually you can change them to 100 as I've seen Satan City cluttered up a lot. Areas... give me a week until I'm done working doubles at work... then we will have areas. Frost's situation, he wasn't punished for his actions (I was not there to witness what took place). I was severe with him b/c of the flame note he wrote about Terraco. This type of behavior is unacceptable and should NOT be tolerated. I was trying to make an example out of him so that no one else got the idea in their head to bash our IMM staff. Nice to see you back, even if it's only a little bit, Vegeta. NO ONE SHOULD BE GIVING OUT SKILLS OR EQ. The scouters should be IMM only (ultra scouters) unless Antor or Vegeta tell you differently. Remember our policy for a player asking for skills... they get transed to the black hole. Make it 5 minutes (like a time out) but always be consistant with how you deal with the players. Builders level 3 and under (not sure if there's any under 3) New policy for you guys... you stay wizi and you have 0 player interaction. If you want player interaction go log on your mort. You guys are here to build... so as Antor said... build. See Goku for new areas. Goku, I'll review areas as I can, not sure how much I can get done until I'm off doubles at work, if you can head that up for now that'd be great. Have fun everyone. Any questions... contact me. Efrin ~ Sender MajinFred~ Date Thu Mar 21 03:59:53 2002~ Stamp 1016712848 Expire 1021896105 To efrin~ Subject area and quest~ Text Hey efrin I made the resets in all the rooms that had some max 100 mobs (officers, students, small child, shopper and citizen). I'm sure that it will seem less crowded set that way. and the prize for that "storyline" I inadvertantly started, I was thinking a nice sum of zenni, something between 5 and 10 million. or they get a house built(unless they already have one). Was thinking of maybe a ring that added +2 on str/con/dex/wis/int, but unless it's ok with you _and_ vegeta, it will doubtfully be made. see ya around :) Majinfred ~ Sender Efrin~ Date Thu Mar 21 04:50:42 2002~ Stamp 1016715121 Expire 1021899050 To imm~ Subject Satan City~ Text Ok, here's the deal, leave Satan City alone. Don't touch it. It's my baby and someone screwed it up, I'm going to fix it and then it's going to be ok. I'm also going to add some new areas on off of Satan City. I will post what these are and these are not to be touched either. Majinfred, I like your idea, but run it by Vegeta. He'll have to give you the go-ahead on everything you want to do. I like it though. Efrin ~ Sender MajinFred~ Date Thu Mar 21 19:59:04 2002~ Stamp 1016769666 Expire 1021953567 To vegeta~ Subject prize for inadvertant "storyline"~ Text the prize for that "storyline" I inadvertantly started, I was thinking a nice sum of zenni, something between 5 and 10 million. or they get a house built(unless they already have one). Was thinking of maybe a ring that added +2 on str/con/dex/wis/int, but unless it's ok with you, it will not be made. see ya around :) Majinfred ~ Sender Videl~ Date Sat Mar 23 08:21:47 2002~ Stamp 1016900716 Expire 1022084517 To imm~ Subject Holochamber~ Text I have an idea. How about when a mob dies in the room, it triggers a delay program to repop the computer. That way we can make sure players just can't rapid kill the holograms, but we also insure they don't get trapped. Videl ~ Sender Antor~ Date Tue Mar 26 17:04:35 2002~ Stamp 1017191278 Expire 1022375087 To imm~ Subject Progs -- please read~ Text The programs for loading mobs, ie 'mob load 1412' (I think) called in mprogs/oprogs/rprogs does not work. For some reason, the mobs that are loaded will crash the game. It's really nice to have a snippet that doesn't work... Anyways, please disable any and all programs that load mobs (Efrin: Im sorry, this includes the Holochamber). I've tried to track down this bug before, and had no luck. It's much worse than I thought it was, so my efforts are being redoubled towards finding it. Sorry for the inconvenience, Antor ~ Sender Efrin~ Date Tue Mar 26 20:43:59 2002~ Stamp 1017204300 Expire 1022388246 To imm~ Subject RE: Antor~ Text Are you SURE, 100%, that that's the problem ? I mean, I loaded mobs til the cows came home with progs... no problems.. maybe I'm wrong, but many people used the chamber and didn't crash the mud.... Get back to me. Efrin ~ Sender Antor~ Date Wed Mar 27 13:09:22 2002~ Stamp 1017263482 Expire 1022447377 To imm~ Subject RE: RE: Antor~ Text Well I think it is...anything is possible right now. The mobs that get loaded in the holochamber are the ones that have been crashing the game, so that leads me to believe its the programs. ~ Sender Efrin~ Date Thu Mar 28 04:18:59 2002~ Stamp 1017317994 Expire 1022501945 To imm~ Subject RE:Antor~ Text I think MOB PURGE SELF has something to do with it. That's why I made room 2233... gotta check on this though, I got the idea from another mud who made a similar room due to problems with MOB PURGE SELF.... maybe you could look into that and see if I'm right. Efrin ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Sun Mar 31 19:32:55 2002~ Stamp 1017632023 Expire 1022815986 To ALL~ Subject Trunks~ Text Truncks quit the imm job people, just thought you should know terraco ~ Sender Efrin~ Date Tue Apr 2 04:06:57 2002~ Stamp 1017749242 Expire 1022933228 To imm~ Subject read this~ Text to all you new imm's, i suggest, if you skipped it, that you go back and read note 73. ~ Sender Efrin~ Date Tue Apr 2 04:13:45 2002~ Stamp 1017749672 Expire 1022933634 To antor vegeta~ Subject Commands~ Text Hey guys, Is there any way that you can make it so level 3 people don't have IMM commands, and only have things like Goto and builder commands. This would make my, monitor the new imm's job, a lot easier. Thanks, Efrin ~ Sender Videl~ Date Tue Apr 2 08:16:45 2002~ Stamp 1017764235 Expire 1022948223 To imm~ Subject my absence~ Text School has been really hectic, so that's why I havn't been around much. Hope to be back building soon. Videl ~ Sender Antor~ Date Tue Apr 2 13:47:03 2002~ Stamp 1017784062 Expire 1022968029 To imm~ Subject Holochamber~ Text I delete the 'one', 'two', etc. triggers on the holochamber computer because the programs were continually crashing the game. Im still looking for the fix ~ Sender MajinFred~ Date Wed Apr 3 02:07:22 2002~ Stamp 1017828606 Expire 1023012456 To terraco~ Subject link to the apartment complex~ Text Hey Terraco... I had to unlink the apartment complex and set it 1 south of the room you put it it because you put it right over the exit for the dojo The exits for the dojo are remade, and like I said, I put the link for the apartment complex one room south of there. Majinfred ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Thu Apr 4 23:04:23 2002~ Stamp 1017990567 Expire 1023174295 To all~ Subject building~ Text Hey all, not to sound like a cold hearted dork, but we the building staff should be getting out 3 to 5 room/mobs/obj/mporgs/oprogs/rprogs and what ever else we can do with in like 10 mins 20 at most. I am aware school rl family and that stuff is frist and fomost. But when you do have time I would suggest doing something like listed abouve, the building staff will be making some changes here in a while, more areas more stuff for you to do and thoses who have no reall reason to have been gone so long, will end up loesing their spot on the building staff, thats just how things are. So lets get things going again. Terraco ~ Sender Parn~ Date Fri Apr 5 12:03:32 2002~ Stamp 1018037306 Expire 1023221022 To antor~ Subject code changes~ Text Heya antor. There was a bug in the code that a lot of newbies were being affected by it. I made two changes in act_move.c The first change was at do_train. I put a comment //quick hack... i added an if check to see if they were transed. if they are bio or android then it doesnt matter if they are transed but if they are any other race and are transed, it wont let them train a stat. the reason for this is when you trans up, you get hp,ki based on your stats. So when they train a stat while transed, and revert they lose more hp/ki depending on what they trained. Seems to work so far. Also put a flag to check for kaioken for train also. the next thing I changed was the do_upgrade for androids. I put a check to see if they are in kaioken and not allow an upgrade if they are. Frost had this problem where they had a perm kaioken when upgraded. The original files for act_move.c is act_move.cb parn @ ~ Sender Antor~ Date Fri Apr 5 13:02:30 2002~ Stamp 1018040569 Expire 1023224562 To Parn~ Subject code changes~ Text Thanks! ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Sun Apr 7 00:39:24 2002~ Stamp 1018168883 Expire 1023352784 To all~ Subject Link death~ Text Hey there should be some sort of code put in that automaicly stops a fight i a player went link dead, I have had a meny complaints about this prob and just exprienced it my self please deal with this becuse it like totlatly SUCKS. terraco (reimbursment given) ~ Sender Antor~ Date Sun Apr 7 14:11:45 2002~ Stamp 1018214020 Expire 1023397922 To imm~ Subject Linkdeads dying~ Text If I do that all anyone has to do if they are getting killed is to drop his/her link. This is a reality of the internet everyone has to deal with, and can't be changed. Sorry. I tried to make linkdead players fight with some intelligence, but have had limited success. ~ Sender Parn~ Date Mon Apr 8 22:18:47 2002~ Stamp 1018329747 Expire 1023513534 To antor~ Subject code stuff~ Text heya, well the androids and bio's are getting upset because they kinda suck pl wise. since theres is a static multiplier. So they kind of get shafted there. I went and made androids and bios be able to do kaioken since they really arent in a transed state.. but more in a evolved state?. Also for bios i set it so they cant absorb while in kaioken to evolve. I tested it and its like the kaioken bug so i just made it say that the fiery red haze destroys all bio-extract so that they stay at trans_count 99. *shrug* so they can absorb till 99. once at 99 they have to get out of kaioken to absorb the 100th one. anyway i made backups in act_move.cb2 and hander.cb before i changed anything parn ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Tue Apr 9 20:58:41 2002~ Stamp 1018411389 Expire 1023595137 To imm~ Subject an area~ Text Phrost I am gonna have to tell you being the burtily honest person I am that your gonna have redo all that you have done in your area. 1. we strive to not have 1 line desc or two line desc's 2. You have to add mor imagination to them and make it more confuseing to get through please make any and all corrections to your area and be imagintive ok Terraco ~ Sender Efrin~ Date Thu Apr 11 05:54:58 2002~ Stamp 1018529948 Expire 1023713705 To imm~ Subject Myself, this mud~ Text Ok guys, here's the scoop. Aesolo is gone, most of the areas/builders are inactive. I suggest deletion of all old IMM chars who aren't currently working. This is a great mud and I look forward to seeing it progress. Builders should always be here just to build, don't let them mess with people, it makes the game suck. The only IMM's who should be delegating things to the morts are Antor or Vegeta. (parn too) Anyhow, to make a long story short, I don't feel it's fair for me to be head-builder anymore. I don't even have time to review the areas anymore. I am going to take a step back and just play for a while. Terraco, you would make a good replacement for me, you are a great builder and have come a long way. Just don't be a prick to the morts... and don't be overly agressive. Those are your only two flaws. You're really great to work with and have more potential than you think. Thanks to Vegeta for the chance to be 'someone' on an awesome mud. Thanks to Antor for all your hard work and all the laughs. Thanks to my building staff who has made the skeleton for the greatest DB mud ever. :P And now, I officially resign my post as head-builder. Good luck guys. Efrin ~ Sender Efrin~ Date Thu Apr 11 05:59:54 2002~ Stamp 1018530037 Expire 1023714006 To imm~ Subject One Last Thing~ Text Ok, it was always kinda my trademark to gecho in yellow letters. Can you guys retire the yellow letters for me, no one else use them, as a last favor to me ? Efrin ~ Sender Tholetho~ Date Thu Apr 11 13:36:17 2002~ Stamp 1018557441 Expire 1023741397 To imm~ Subject me~ Text ok im back and am currently reading on mprogs, so i can finally finish that namek area, sorry for all that thing, having some probs irl, anyway expect to have that area done soon, ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Thu Apr 11 18:42:06 2002~ Stamp 1018575845 Expire 1023759739 To ALL~ Subject Riper~ Text OK all Riper is strictly for RP only and I am gonna set him and use him for SIROUS RP so it you have any probs with this let me know I will not use him for anything like helping people gain all the time have my word Terraco ~ Sender MajinFred~ Date Thu Apr 11 20:14:36 2002~ Stamp 1018581554 Expire 1023765314 To imm~ Subject saving areas~ Text Hey all Just want to remind you all to use 'asave changed' every few minutes after making a few rooms/mobs/objects/etc. It would really suck if you had to start a days/nights work over again because the mud crashed/needed a reboot, and you hadnt saved. Maybe for just to be sure you're area is saved is to 'asave changed' before quiting. -*A public service announcement paid for by*- MajinFred :) ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Fri Apr 12 14:56:42 2002~ Stamp 1018648673 Expire 1023832616 To Parn or Vegeta~ Subject AREA~ Text Hey one of ya could you give me and 4200-4299 so I can get going on another planet please i would arreacte it terraco ~ Sender MajinFred~ Date Fri Apr 12 21:30:23 2002~ Stamp 1018673222 Expire 1023856366 To vegeta~ Subject Terraco/Riper~ Text Hi. I got asked to see what Riper was doing in a sparring sphere. I saw Riper and Kahlan doing some sparring, mostly repeating the same commands. And not much RP by the way. Riper lowered his pl and Kahlan started getting in hits , gaining alot of pl in the process(around 1mill). The imm that asked me to take a look stopped the spar and had a talk with both of them. Terraco was going to take away any PL she had gotten. They both were warned. Terraco was lowered to level 3 and now wants back up to level 4. it's my opinion that should be up to you(and probably antor too) to give it back to him. He has been a great help as a level 4, and I think he should get it back. Majinfred ~ Sender Parn~ Date Sun Apr 14 22:05:05 2002~ Stamp 1018847384 Expire 1024031114 To antor vegeta~ Subject efrin~ Text hmm seems like efrin cheated before he quit... he gave out a lot of skills to morts.. even skills that morts are not suppose to have. also he made a char. .terrace that he used as play thing experiment. because of that he quit head builder because he liked morts better. before he quit, he set his char Oneba wit 1000 trains etc.. what not... he has like 45million pl in 5 hours. dunno how he got that high so fast. fast. anyway i renamed the char till i find out what happend @ ~ Sender Gohan~ Date Mon Apr 15 01:35:03 2002~ Stamp 1018860298 Expire 1024043732 To imm~ Subject First Project~ Text New RP imm pitching his first project to the group. Glad to be on the team btw I hope I can help to strengthen the RP evironment around here. Anyways on to the project. I want to open an "RP DOJO" where people who want to can be trained in the use of fighting through emotes, which is one of the major components in the RP that takes place here. Alot of people would like to participate in RP battles but I hear it often that they say they dont know how to fight using emotes. so this idea is to remedy that. I could hire some of the elite RP fighters to become 'instructors' and sessions can be held where they can teach the basics of emote fighting, as well as give tips on the do's and donts of the process, also they can give general tips of RP such as char deveolpment and the like. In exchange for their services I'd like to offer them a zenni per week salary based on how many classes they hold and feedback from others on their teaching. Thats the basics of the idea, feel free to ask for more details if needed. thats all ~ Sender Gohan~ Date Mon Apr 15 01:45:06 2002~ Stamp 1018860403 Expire 1024044315 To imm~ Subject almost forgot~ Text almost forgot, rule 1 of "RP DOJO": Absolutely no code fighting UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. Violators will be severely punished! okay thats all ~ Sender Videl~ Date Mon Apr 15 10:56:01 2002~ Stamp 1018893445 Expire 1024077373 To imm~ Subject Videl and School~ Text School is hard this semester. I probably won't be on much until June, when the semester has ended. If I get deleted for inactivity, I won't have hard feelings since I know I haven't done anything in over a month now :p Videl, who is having to write a search engine :p ~ Sender Cell~ Date Mon Apr 15 22:29:50 2002~ Stamp 1018935114 Expire 1024119007 To Parn~ Subject Building~ Text Hello Parn, I know I was originally hired to be an rp Immortal but Terraco has offered to teach me to build, if it's possible could I get security clearance to edit rooms so that I can be taught how to build by him, I'd like to help out with more than roleplaying. Thanks for taking the time to read this ~ Sender Oneba~ Date Tue Apr 16 11:00:54 2002~ Stamp 1018980226 Expire 1024164065 To imm~ Subject Myself~ Text As many know, I was once Efrin. It disturbs me very much that someone has decided to take some vendetta against me. I was deleted for "cheating"... right... Anyway, my char is missing 40million PL right now... I am considering deleting and leaving this place for good, which is sad after all the work I put in here... It's either that or make an alt that no one knows... I wasn't given any notice or warning... just BAM deleted. That is a bunch of shit. I want to know what happened and at least be given the chance to defend myself against whatever accusation was brought up against me. It's now very clear to me why the mortals all complained about the IMM's. Please, no more power trips. Oneba ~ Sender Buu~ Date Tue Apr 16 12:45:52 2002~ Stamp 1018986428 Expire 1024170363 To imm~ Subject Head Builder~ Text I nominate Terraco for the new Head Builder. Well.... not nominate but second the idea. -Buu ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Tue Apr 16 15:47:43 2002~ Stamp 1018997321 Expire 1024181283 To imm~ Subject Efrin and his morts~ Text ok people efrin has now complatly deleted from the game and dont think he will ever be back just thought you all should know terraco ~ Sender Cell~ Date Tue Apr 16 23:31:54 2002~ Stamp 1019025190 Expire 1024209125 To imm~ Subject Healing on npc's~ Text Hello all, not sure if this is a bug or not, but gohan brought to my attention That xizix and leo are using the heal skill on general lucas it is considered an attack so they gain pl but he doesn't attack back We gave them a warning but didn't really know how to deal with it Please let us know since it's a very cheap way to get strong ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Wed Apr 17 22:03:05 2002~ Stamp 1019106471 Expire 1024290196 To all~ Subject AREAS~ Text hey all MajinFred and myself came up with a idea on the ALIST and put into effect so we can tell where we have to send builders and what is done and linked and what not. Done-Linked - Areas that are done and linked inot the main game with player access Likn2Done - areas that are done but need to be linked to the main game Builders name \ none \ or Work2 done / all mean the area is being worked on or needs to be worrked on I hope you like the idea and stuff let myself and majinfred know what ya think of our idea so. it is mostly so we know what is done and needs to be done. Terraco ~ Sender MajinFred~ Date Thu Apr 18 04:13:47 2002~ Stamp 1019128535 Expire 1024312445 To cell~ Subject building~ Text Hey Cell. I got asked by Terraco to remind you to build at least 5 rooms in the area he's given to you. I'm sorry I couldnt tell you in person, but I was practically falling asleep on the keyboard while writing the note. Majinfred ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Thu Apr 18 09:17:16 2002~ Stamp 1019146845 Expire 1024330665 To {RALL BUILDER~ Subject meet time~ Text Hey all of you builders I would like to poss a meeting of some sort so we can discuss what is going on now, I realize not all of you can and probly wont beable to make it but I ask that we scedual time convinent to you so give me a personal with a time convenit and when we all got it in I will witch one is more convinet and set it up. (writen half asleep let my spelling be) Terraci Terraco not i ~ Sender Cell~ Date Fri Apr 19 06:39:09 2002~ Stamp 1019223697 Expire 1024407560 To Parn~ Subject CHeating~ Text Parn I am reporting myself for cheating I used cell to get celcius from 19mil to 26mil I feel horrible about this so please post my punishment wether loss of Immortal or deletion of celcius If you decide to take away cell at least let me finish namek area first Thank you thats all I can ask for and I am sorry ~ Sender Videl~ Date Sun Apr 21 11:46:48 2002~ Stamp 1019415008 Expire 1024598814 To imm~ Subject RP Battles~ Text Hmm...actully considering deleting. Here's why. If I want to play on a MUSH style mud, where battles are emoted and not coded, I'll play a MUSH. If that is what this places starts turning into, I'm not interested. Granted, I know my voice doesn't count for much atm, since I'm not active, but still just want to give my 2 cents. Videl/Kyja, who says the code is there for a reason. ~ Sender MajinFred~ Date Mon Apr 22 05:19:50 2002~ Stamp 1019478175 Expire 1024662015 To imm~ Subject knee skill teacher~ Text Hey all Just to tell you I put the special ops officer in artic "in charge" of showing knee. If there was a teacher already, I will remove the appropriate line. Or if it should be deemed good, it could be converted to only show the skill, and the players watching would be writing up the story on how they got it, etc. All opinions welcome, and I do mean all. Majinfred :) ~ Sender MajinFred~ Date Mon Apr 22 05:26:54 2002~ Stamp 1019479146 Expire 1024662519 To imm~ Subject Re: RP Battles~ Text ok... we so far got one against using only emotes for battles. Better make that 2. As Videl said, the code is there so it should be part of battles just not the main thing during one. In my mind, a RP battle would be something like this: emote blabla code punch with either hit or miss message emote about hit or miss, then one about retaliation code retaliating punch... and so forth until the RP battle is done either by surrender, knockout or even death. Might not make much sense, but that is what I think it could look like. And as for the "voice not meaning much for not being active", that just bull. The imms that have been "absent" for a while and left a reason for that absence are just that, absent. Those who didnt, might have their reasons too. But that shouldnt affect on how someone should consider their opinion when they do come on. I believe that something like this could only cause trouble, and eventually lead some to quit or delete just for a misunderstanding. 'nough said on that subject when it comes to my opinion. {CMajinFred{x :) ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Mon Apr 22 11:41:17 2002~ Stamp 1019500944 Expire 1024684891 To all builders~ Subject buliding~ Text I see we are going on buliding stuff real well sory I havnt been around that much but i will be so dont stop working ok terraco ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Tue Apr 23 16:49:55 2002~ Stamp 1019605925 Expire 1024789804 To ALL~ Subject Lucas~ Text allright people I removed lucas for a resson and I will put him back after I figuer out how to adjust him just right. PLEASE DO NOT UNDO THE LUCAS THING AGAIN. I will deal with it in time terraco ~ Sender Cell~ Date Wed Apr 24 17:51:52 2002~ Stamp 1019696010 Expire 1024879959 To imm~ Subject My alt~ Text Malenstro has been transferred to hell as part of his ic death. He will remain here until He is strong enough to reincarnate himself Please let me know if this is a problem ~ Sender Bulma~ Date Thu Apr 25 09:48:23 2002~ Stamp 1019753612 Expire 1024937468 To Terraco~ Subject Erdrick~ Text Ok, this mortal Erdrick has been getting transfered around the world, if he gets lost he gets transfered. He has also been given restores for stupid things like been knocked unconscious. I am wondering if this imm sticking up for him is actually Erdricks imm character, which would be a multi-char on at once sort of deal as well. Anyways, just something that seemed strangely odd to me and a bunch of mortals like Devel and Lightning, the two that told me the story. ~ Sender Cell~ Date Thu Apr 25 16:57:02 2002~ Stamp 1019779191 Expire 1024963033 To imm~ Subject Malenstro~ Text Hi all, Specifically Terraco and parn Parn= There is a bug with droidrage if you die with it on you lose 10% of droidrage pl I lost over 10bil with it on...that kinda blew Reason I lost the pl is because Of Ulric and Guldar, gukldar attacks if you fight guldar and there is like an anti-flee command? I typed flee well over 200 times and then I just sat and waited to die Knowing I could log this char and save myself but I didn't But anyways that was pretty gay so I am going to wrap up android rp and delete -Cell- If fighting ulric with l4ets say bash, guldar eventually attacks you ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Mon Apr 29 18:11:24 2002~ Stamp 1020129222 Expire 1021857100 To ALL~ Subject STORIE BOARD~ Text Hey all I would greatly appericate like all but lthe latest stories remove if someone can. like all the way to 90 90_ whatever can stay but like 1-89 removed I dont like being kicked everytime I look at the list. terraco ~ Sender MajinFred~ Date Tue Apr 30 03:03:20 2002~ Stamp 1020161378 Expire 1025345034 To imm~ Subject {C**{ximportant notice{C**{x~ Text alright just a little note about mob building. autoset all the mobs that you make from now on, it will make things easier in the long run. for those not familiar with the command, it's something like this: autoset [easy|normal|hard] <power level> ie: autoset easy 1000 <-- low level mob set for easy kills autoset normal 15000 <-- sort of average autoset hard 10000000000 <-- nice hard high level mob... suicidal if you ask me *Public service announcement* {CMajinFred{x :) ~ Sender MajinFred~ Date Fri May 3 19:52:44 2002~ Stamp 1020481016 Expire 1025664814 To imm~ Subject *sigh*~ Text Hey all. Just letting you know that I might not be on as much during the nights. The office has currently implemented some measures that keeps me from connecting on here with a client. Although, I will still be on when I get home from work and on weekends. I will try using mudconnect and see if that works, but I wouldnt bet on it. Hopefully, there could be a way around this, but until I find it I wont be making much of an appearance in nights to come. Well Wishes, {CMajinFred{x :\ ~ Sender Daishi~ Date Fri May 10 03:20:18 2002~ Stamp 1021026316 Expire 1026210038 To all~ Subject Prog lockups~ Text Ok well i have encountered some problems with the objprogs. It seems that for some reason they tend to hang up all the progs in the mud. First problem appeared after no endif was added to a prog. But now it seems like every objprog no matter if correct or not, causes this problem. Maybe a coder could look a bit into it, till then i personnaly will not use any objprogs anymore. Daishi ~ Sender Daishi~ Date Sat May 11 01:51:52 2002~ Stamp 1021107511 Expire 1026291149 To all~ Subject Prog probs~ Text If you are using the mobprogs by Newt, there is an error checking routine that can sometimes cause all mobprogs to stop working until the next reboot If you see an error in your log file of the format: Mobprog: max_call_level exceeded The solution is to go through the program_flow() function, and add a call_level-- ; Before anywhere where there is a 'return' statement. ou probably want to do this instead of just disabling the check a someone will build looping mobprogs if you do. thats all i have found on the mobporg prob... hope it helps.. daishi ~ Sender MajinFred~ Date Sat May 11 05:49:28 2002~ Stamp 1021121514 Expire 1026305394 To terraco~ Subject wizlist & zierk pl reimb(?)~ Text Hey Terraco. Hopefully you like the way the wizlist looks like now. Had to recreate it completly to get it that way :) And Zierk asked about his pl reimbursement. didnt get much details, only wondering if it was accepted. That's all I can think of at the moment. {CMajinFred{x :) ~ Sender Terraco~ Date Mon May 13 15:09:58 2002~ Stamp 1021328039 Expire 1026511911 To ALL~ Subject Daikama and Kestral~ Text Daikama and Kestral are to remain in the whole till they do their time 5 mins for multilink DO NOT TRANS THEM OUT TILL HE DOSE HIS TIME Terraco ~ Sender MajinFred~ Date Wed May 15 03:49:09 2002~ Stamp 1021460074 Expire 1026643796 To imm~ Subject slight change to building~ Text To All Builders: Starting now, and until the crashes are figured out, stick to building rooms for your assigned areas(description, name, etc), then you can start on objects and so on. Do not try to make oprogs or rprogs for the time being, mprogs only if a mob _really_ needs one. Just a little preventive measure to be sure we arent accidentally crashing this place quite often lately for a buggy prog or mob that wasnt set properly. {B**{cA Public Service Announcement Brought To You By{B**{x {CMajinFred{x :) ~ Sender MajinFred~ Date Thu May 16 05:02:14 2002~ Stamp 1021550600 Expire 1026734584 To imm~ Subject {C**{R**{YW A R N I N G{R**{C** Builders must read!~ Text Doing the following may cause a crash. It is pure speculation on my part for the moment, but it is better have a "boring" item/mob than a crashing mud. aff detect_evil detect_magic detect_good infrared protect_evil flying haste regeneration imm poison holy disease wood res weapon bash pierce slash fire cold energy vuln lightning That is going overboard since practically the only affs a mob should have would be flying or infrared. Use immunities/resistances/vulnerabilities sparingly, and it is not necessary for every offense flag be chosen to make a mob hard. Use 'autoset [easy|normal|hard] <pl>' to set the AC, hitroll and wealth. hitbonus and kibonus should rarely go over 100% much less hit 6000%. **A public service note by a rather discouraged** {CMajinFred{X ~ Sender Antor~ Date Fri May 17 15:10:43 2002~ Stamp 1021673557 Expire 1026857458 To imm~ Subject To Whoever Made Some Changes~ Text Whoever made the changes, did you keep a list of them? I would like to add them to the new version, and if they are easily accessible, I could just pop them in, rather than writing them over again. -Antor ~ Sender Parn~ Date Mon Jul 1 11:23:54 2002~ Stamp 1025548092 Expire 1030731845 To antor~ Subject sigh.. sorry about the massive downtime..~ Text heya.. computer crashed and burned.. i didnt have ur email.. the system is almost done.. but its not working right.. wont boot up with 2 cpus... hmm.. anyway mb got fried.. chips got fried.. 512MB of memory got fried.. :( and didnt have the time to go and build a new system.. but finally all the parts came in.. so its partially up now.. will eventually reinstall the os... sigh.. will eventually reinstall the os... sigh.. btw what changes are u talking about? most are just bug fixes and or cheat fixes.. ie like fusion.. and kamikazi stance they would fuse up to massive pl and then use kamikazi and just sit there while they get hit.. and other person would get massive pl from it fast... also fused.. ppl would drop things and dupe eq/zenni what not.. parn @ ~ Sender Kanei~ Date Fri Aug 30 07:12:01 2002~ Stamp 1030716769 Expire 1030803153 To Sayichia~ Subject Shooting the breeze, you know, the norm.~ Text Hey, Call me. -Kanei ~ Sender MajinFred~ Date Sat Jul 6 21:29:12 2002~ Stamp 1026016609 Expire 1031200214 To imm~ Subject reimbs for PL lost...~ Text Ok... I dont know all of the story, I've missed most of it. Trunks killed a bunch of mortals and now all those killed want a reimb of their pl. I dont know if it was accidental or not, as I said I missed it: I was AFK, and dont have a log of anything that happened. I've tried to help some of them get the pl back, but I'm guessing I'm doing it all wrong. I've suggested that those affected write a note so you can see who needs the reimb(I say that they deserve it even if it was accidental) . Only way I can see to really see of getting them back to the way they were is with the pfiles. Hopefully I'm right in trying to help, but seem to be over my head. If anyone can help, go for it. {CMajinFred{x ~ Sender Antor~ Date Mon Jul 15 20:45:52 2002~ Stamp 1026791323 Expire 1031975171 To imm~ Subject DBA v2~ Text I think Im going to switch over to the new version of the mud soon. Its much better, with a new skill system, fight system, missions, random areas, and more. However, the player format is different, so everyone has to start over ... although this gives everyone a fresh start. Also, the mobs might be a little weird because of the new system, and will have to be adjusted. However, the new version is a lot more fun, so we should get ready to try it. What does everyone think? Antor ~ Sender Orlandu~ Date Sat Aug 31 20:57:40 2002~ Stamp 1030852703 Expire 1032062270 To imm~ Subject Alazar~ Text I found Alazar botting on vegeta, so i transfered him to room 4, plz don't move him till he has learned his lesson. Orlandu ~ Sender Cell~ Date Thu Jul 18 18:15:49 2002~ Stamp 1027041425 Expire 1032225358 To imm~ Subject Antor~ Text I suppose I am for it it might even get the players into rp again I just hope we don't lose some people because of a wipe. I uess thats all I have to say on the subject I uess thats all I have to say on the subject ~