maddog
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#1 id:58863 Posted Oct 31, 2011, 10:48 pm
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Just curious i havnt been able to get our imc connected to the network , are the servers currently down?
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maddog
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#3 id:58874 Posted Nov 1, 2011, 10:36 pm
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server 1 is what its supposed to be networked with
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Runter
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#6 id:58880 Posted Nov 2, 2011, 9:36 am
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Hades_Kane said:Looking at the logs, it looks like there is barely any activity on IMC at all.
Is IMC basically dead at this point?
I've thought about adding in some sort of IMC like support for a while now, but are the logs indicative of the true activity level across those channels?
Yes to all.
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Hades_Kane
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#7 id:58881 Posted Nov 2, 2011, 9:37 am
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Runter said:
Hades_Kane said:Looking at the logs, it looks like there is barely any activity on IMC at all.
Is IMC basically dead at this point?
I've thought about adding in some sort of IMC like support for a while now, but are the logs indicative of the true activity level across those channels?
Yes to all.
Thanks, just double checking :p
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David Haley
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#8 id:58883 Posted Nov 2, 2011, 10:08 am
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Yes, MB IMC is basically dead, and has been for, well, a long while now.
If you want to look into intermud, I'd recommend going with I3, which has far more activity.
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Hades_Kane
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#9 id:58888 Posted Nov 2, 2011, 12:47 pm
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David Haley said:Yes, MB IMC is basically dead, and has been for, well, a long while now.
If you want to look into intermud, I'd recommend going with I3, which has far more activity.
That's the one Cratylus is involved in the Administration of, correct?
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quixadhal
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#11 id:58890 Posted Nov 2, 2011, 2:31 pm
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Just to clarify, I3 currently has a single central server, however the architecture supports having multiple servers administered independantly of one another, and they can be bridged. Individual channels are owned by the MUD that creates them, and so every channel can have its own set of "rules", depending on whomever owns it.
Because the source for an I3 server is readily avilable (it's actually distributed with the Dead Souls mudlib, and is written in LPC), if the evil Cratylus were to suddenly decide to start imposing his will upon, for example, the "discworld_chat" channel, anyone who had an issue with that could simply setup their own I3 server and ensure that everyone who cared about a "Crat-free" discworld channel connected to THEIR server. It could remain bridged to the existing network if desired, however the "evil" admin could only affect traffic going through his own server.
Just to note though, in the three years or so I've been on I3, I've never seen any abuses of power. There are established rules for the most popular channels (intergossip, dchat, intercre), and the person most often being temporarily banned from those channels is quite often the evil administrator himself.
FWIW.
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Runter
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#12 id:58891 Posted Nov 2, 2011, 4:18 pm
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Quote: if the evil Cratylus were to suddenly decide to start imposing his will upon, for example, the "discworld_chat" channel, anyone who had an issue with that could simply setup their own I3 server and ensure that everyone who cared about a "Crat-free" discworld channel connected to THEIR server.
Isn't that a bit like saying that if you didn't like mudbytes ran IMC2 you could just download this:
http://www.mudbytes.net/file-2706
and set up your own imc2 server...and then convince everyone to use it instead? I'm not sure I see the distinction.
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Cratylus
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#14 id:58893 Posted Nov 2, 2011, 5:49 pm
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David Haley said:My understanding is that the I3 channel model is more federated, where individual MUDs have more control over channels, whereas in the IMC2 world the server is a much more central authority.
Correct. Muds on i3 can create and admin channels as they wish, banning muds from them if they like, or setting up white lists or blacklists, etc.
-Crat
http://lpmuds.net/intermud.html
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maddog
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#15 id:58894 Posted Nov 2, 2011, 11:39 pm
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Well i been playing with the configuration a bit more, but i still have yet to connect. it continues to tell me...
The mud is not currently connected to IMC2. im not sure if the problem is my configuration of maybe im trying to hook up to the wrong network LOL . From what i read here it seems there is a bit of discussion on the state of the network
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