donky
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#1 id:49334 Posted Aug 13, 2010, 3:38 am
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Has anything solid come out of this? I used to occasionally visit the forums, and saw lots of discussion. But it seems to have come to a halt for now.
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KaVir
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#2 id:49335 Posted Aug 13, 2010, 3:44 am
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I believe the protocols are still under development, but the open discussions seem to have died off.
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#4 id:49337 Posted Aug 13, 2010, 6:04 am
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I assume you mean CMUD rather than zMUD? CMUD will have built-in support for GMCP, as will Mudlet, and IRE and Aardwolf are implementing the protocol server-side. So I suspect it'll be the protocol of choice for most muds and clients.
I'm not sure that the map thing really effects me, but even if it did, I don't think coming up with a solution here would be very influencial on others. Whatever approach the big muds choose is what will be supported by the clients, and that's what everyone else will use.
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#6 id:49348 Posted Aug 13, 2010, 12:41 pm
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Poor choice of words, please allow me to rephrase:
"Whatever approach the big muds choose is what will be supported by the clients, and that's what everyone else most other server and client developers who choose to add support for an out-of-band protocol will use."
I've already started putting together a snippet for adding MDSP, and it'll be pretty codebase independent. Perhaps if I offer that with a simple MUSHclient GUI plugin (and a tt++ script if I can get someone to offer their expertise) it might start to look more appealing.
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#9 id:49386 Posted Aug 13, 2010, 10:50 pm
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So off topic, but I can't help myself: Scandum, whats with the Hello Kitty picture? Don't get me wrong, I really like it!
It's just sort of funny. My wife has a Hello Kitty BOFA debit card on our joint account, so therefor, the only type of card I can get is
a Hello Kitty card, and its well, er, kind of embarrassing.
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KaVir
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#10 id:49392 Posted Aug 14, 2010, 4:01 am
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Nice! I've spoken to a few mud owners who expressed a mild interest - I doubt they'd go to the effort to implement it themselves, but they might be convinced to add a simple snippet. I'm planning to release my snippet as PD, so people shouldn't be discouraged by licencing conditions.
So far I've got it supporting TTYPE and NAWS - I've added the snippet to a copy of GW1 to test it, and it requires only a few simple changes to the mud. MSDP will rely more heavily on the mud, because of the variables, but I'm going to try and keep it as generic as possible.
I'm not sure if I should add any other protocols to it, or keep it simple. I've got commented sections showing where you would add support for MCCP, ATCP, ZMP and MSP, so perhaps that's enough. I'm also toying with the idea of adding an xterm 256 colour function - if muds got it "for free" with their protocol snippet they might be more tempted to use it.
Sounds good.
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#11 id:49394 Posted Aug 14, 2010, 7:15 am
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JohnnyStarr said:So off topic, but I can't help myself: Scandum, whats with the Hello Kitty picture? Don't get me wrong, I really like it!
It's just sort of funny. My wife has a Hello Kitty BOFA debit card on our joint account, so therefor, the only type of card I can get is
a Hello Kitty card, and its well, er, kind of embarrassing.
HA! So I work at a coffee shop whilst attending college. The cafe is in a hospital, so I get a wide variety of customers from a wider variety of backgrounds. It's a teaching hospital, so a lot of foreigners come. Anyway, there are about 7 dudes that come with a Hello Kitty credit card. 4 of them are Asian men, two of them European (not sure which country, possibly Italy or France)
Now I think one of them is YOU! 
I was also wondering about your avatar too. Are you a girl? It always makes me wonder.
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#12 id:49395 Posted Aug 14, 2010, 7:51 am
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Scandum's avatar arose from some ancient drama thread.
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#13 id:49399 Posted Aug 14, 2010, 9:48 am
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KaVir said:I'm also toying with the idea of adding an xterm 256 colour function - if muds got it "for free" with their protocol snippet they might be more tempted to use it.
I'm a little surprised that it doesn't seem to be used more than it is - I used the snippet in the repository (which I believe is by Scandum) and didn't have a hard time or anything. The last time I looked, I recall finding somewhat poor support for it in terms of number of clients that can display all of the colors...perhaps that's a contributing factor?
I would be quite interested in reading through an MSDP snippet, I'm impressed with the GUI you're making for your game.
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#14 id:49403 Posted Aug 14, 2010, 1:59 pm
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KaVir said:So far I've got it supporting TTYPE and NAWS - I've added the snippet to a copy of GW1 to test it, and it requires only a few simple changes to the mud. MSDP will rely more heavily on the mud, because of the variables, but I'm going to try and keep it as generic as possible.
MTH supports TTYPE, NAWS, MCCP (with memory optimizations), MSSP, and NEW-ENVIRON, it also deals with broken packets and is PD, so feel free to mess with it.
Regarding my avatar, I figured to lighten the mood back when discussions tended to get a little grim at times. I like my avatar on TMS better.
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KaVir
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#15 id:49415 Posted Aug 15, 2010, 5:00 am
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Scandum said:MTH supports TTYPE, NAWS, MCCP (with memory optimizations), MSSP, and NEW-ENVIRON, it also deals with broken packets and is PD, so feel free to mess with it.
Oops...oh well. I'll just leave it with TTYPE and NAWS as examples, and focus on MSDP. I've tried to make my snippet easy to install and extend, so if people use it they should be able to merge it with your snippet.
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