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#16 id:13078 Posted Oct 1, 2008, 5:14 am
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ok in the cooperative linux console it says andLinux login: and whenever i type anything it says password. do i need to open one of the other things i got with it to be able to do anything or what?
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#17 id:13080 Posted Oct 1, 2008, 5:17 am
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There is the quick answer to all of your questions.
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#18 id:13081 Posted Oct 1, 2008, 5:20 am
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Igabod said:ok in the cooperative linux console it says andLinux login: and whenever i type anything it says password. do i need to open one of the other things i got with it to be able to do anything or what?
Did you read my last post, YOU DONT LOGIN.
you just start applications from the start menu
Also if you had read the readme, you would know that the login is root password root
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#19 id:13083 Posted Oct 1, 2008, 5:32 am
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apparently i did have to login cause once i typed root as the username it showed me the prompt which i was looking for. i looked on the forum and all the topics that dealt with questions i have didn't have any answers (i didn't go past the first page before the_fury posted that last bit about root.) and what is this about starting applications from start menu? i'm just trying to use the command prompt so i can edit some code. you're talking to me like i'm supposed to know what all of this stuff is and it's not that simple for someone who has ABSOLUTELY no linux experience outside using a shell to edit muds, and cygwin which is super simple to me at this point. i'm just trying to learn this the easiest way i can, and combing through pages of forum threads isn't easy at all when you're at work.
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I have a love interest in every one of my films... a gun. - Arnold Schwarzenegger
Recession is when a neighbor loses his job. Depression is when you lose yours. - Ronald Reagan
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#20 id:13084 Posted Oct 1, 2008, 5:40 am
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Instead of logging in using the FLTK or NT console you should just be able to access a list of installed linux programs. If you are using the KDE version it will be in the place on the bottom right where the clock is (I don't know windows very well), the XFCE version has a panel that will appear at the top middle of your screen. You are better off using Konsole or something. You could also use any other text editor instead of being limited to nano/vi/pico or whatever you happen to be using.
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#21 id:13085 Posted Oct 1, 2008, 5:43 am
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FLTK is not for working in command line, its sole purpose is for debugging and fixing things when something goes wrong.. When you installed Andlinux it was either Kde or Xfce version, each one of those installed a launcher app that is in the task tray. Click on it to start applications, andlinux will automaticly login the root user for you.
Click on the launcher and start the installed programs from there. You cannot miss it, its a bright blue K if Kde and a dirty great thing sitting in the middle of the screen if its Xfce.
Im tired, i think i should go to bed. As for it not being easy, well it is super simple when you read the instructions, there is a ton of it on the website.
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To start andLinux (in case you didn't choose automatic startup during the setup), use the "Start andLinux" shortcut from the start menu (or desktop or quicklaunch icons if created during setup). In case you chose to run andLinux in a command window, andLinux will run in a minimized window labeled "andServer (coLinux)"; do not close this window! If you chose to run andLinux automatically as a NT service, you'll find srvstart.bat in the installation folder -- just in case you may need to restart it manually.
Once andLinux is completely running, you may start applications using the XFCE Panel resp. the andLinux Launcher. Note that the first startup of an application may take some time because some applications perform configuration tasks at the first startup.
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Note: Even if andLinux does not fully startup, you might be able to login to andLinux using FLTK or NT console for debugging purposes.
Umm and look on the wiki there is lots of information there also.
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Alternative way of starting Linux programs
XFCE panel and andLinux Launcher are nice, but I want the least possible number of special objects on my Windows desktop. I just need a terminal emulator, as I can start all programs from the shell. The andCmd.exe binary comes in handy here. I have created two Windows batch files (for a root and a normal user shell):
C:\Programme\andLinux\Launcher\andCmd.exe xterm -bg orange
C:\Programme\andLinux\Launcher\andCmd.exe sudo su - ah -c xterm
Of course the chosen terminal emulator (as well as the background color of the root shell ;-) ) is a matter of taste.
That is something that i did not know and found out just now on the wiki, i am going to place all the apps i use regularly now into the windows start menu under andlinux and scrap the launcher. LOL
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#22 id:13087 Posted Oct 1, 2008, 6:03 am
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i already don't like andLinux just because of the difficulty i'm having at getting started. now when i click konsole absolutely nothing happens. no error messages, no window pops up, nothing. maybe i'll just have to try doing this on a night when we're not so busy here at work cause this is making me feel like i'm completely retarded.
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Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
I have a love interest in every one of my films... a gun. - Arnold Schwarzenegger
Recession is when a neighbor loses his job. Depression is when you lose yours. - Ronald Reagan
I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me. - Fred Allen
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#24 id:13096 Posted Oct 1, 2008, 2:32 pm
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What David said is very true Igabod. Im sorry if I came off as less than helpful but there is a lot of information available on the andLinux website and in the documentation and all of your questions would have been answered if you read through it. I just recently installed andLinux and came across a few problems myself that were quickly resolved by browsing the documentation and forum. In the future you should try to RTFM and then ask your questions.
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#25 id:13106 Posted Oct 1, 2008, 7:42 pm
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The first thing to realize is that linux isn't a program, it's an entire operating system, just like windows. If you're using something that lets you run it from windows, you're running the OS in a virtual machine. Why does that matter? Only because the linux OS itself doesn't know that it doesn't have full control of the machine. From it's point of view, it IS your computer and thus it sets up a whole slew of services, just like windows does.
Konsole is a KDE graphical application that probably (I don't use it myself) contacts a local server process that listens on port 81. It's pretty common in the unix world to write server applications that do the work, and graphical frontends that talk to them via the same kind of sockets you'd use if it were halfway around the world on some other machine. It means if you wanted to remote-administer, you'd be able to use Konsole but tell it to use a different IP/port.
Personally, I've never used this particular package and would probably be just as frustrated, simply because I'm an old unix warhorse and all these GUI things usually annoy me since they all work differently. So, don't feel bad if it takes some time to figure out.... it is, after all, an entire OS. I'd expect any of the unix experts here to be similarly befuddled if they sat down at an AmigaDOS prompt. :)
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#26 id:13109 Posted Oct 1, 2008, 8:10 pm
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Actually, Quix, you'd be surprised, I would be more at home with an old-style AmigaDOS prompt in many ways, I used to spend countless hours playing a brand new game I'd bought for my Amiga 1000 called The Bard's Tale way back when..  ...course, before that I used to spent even more time working with word perfect, peachtree general ledger, multimate, and others from floppies under zDOS on my cpm/cobol-80 based Zenith-Heathkit z100 color computer.. ah, the good ol' days. 
As for konsole, it's just KDE's version of terminal, check out http://konsole.kde.org/ for help with it, though he still might want to check the andlinux links already provided in case it's more a andlinux specific issue.
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#27 id:13142 Posted Oct 2, 2008, 2:15 am
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quixadhal said:The first thing to realize is that linux isn't a program, it's an entire operating system, just like windows. If you're using something that lets you run it from windows, you're running the OS in a virtual machine. Why does that matter? Only because the linux OS itself doesn't know that it doesn't have full control of the machine. From it's point of view, it IS your computer and thus it sets up a whole slew of services, just like windows does.
Andlinux is a port of the Linux kernel to windows. There is no virtual machine, no emulation, it is pure native Linux that uses windows as the desktop. The Andlinux launcher is a native windows app that communicates with the Andlinux network via that port, to start applications within Andlinux. If Andlinux is still in the process of booting, there is no network interface to communicate over thus the launcher will report an error on 192.168.1.150:81 Once fully booted it is just a matter of using the launcher to select the application you would like to start, this will login the root user, and start the appropriate application.
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#28 id:13211 Posted Oct 3, 2008, 1:04 am
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alright, i got andlinux working, i don't know what my problem was the other night, i did it just the same as i did this time and didn't get the same results but thats not my problem anymore. now i just need to know how to move my files to the directory for andlinux. i have looked in c:\program files\andLinux\ and the various sub-directories within that directory but when i'm in konsole i only see an empty directory called windows.
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Recession is when a neighbor loses his job. Depression is when you lose yours. - Ronald Reagan
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#29 id:13212 Posted Oct 3, 2008, 1:13 am
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Windows should not be an empty directory. That will be your primary windows partition. Did you use Cofs or samba to mount your windows partition?
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#30 id:13215 Posted Oct 3, 2008, 2:08 am
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to be honest, i don't really remember but i think it was cofs.
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Every man has his follies, and often they are the most interesting thing he has got - Josh Billings
Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe. - Albert Einstein
I have a love interest in every one of my films... a gun. - Arnold Schwarzenegger
Recession is when a neighbor loses his job. Depression is when you lose yours. - Ronald Reagan
I like long walks, especially when they are taken by people who annoy me. - Fred Allen
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