05 Jun, 2010, Cratylus wrote in the 1st comment:
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hi i'm banned from imc2, what do?
05 Jun, 2010, kiasyn wrote in the 2nd comment:
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/rules said:
4) The following are not tolerated on public channels:
* unwarranted hostility

All of these will be judged by our subjective opinion of what constitutes a violation.
05 Jun, 2010, David Haley wrote in the 3rd comment:
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It's so very reassuring to see incompetence and irrationality back with us again. I was starting to feel uncomfortable with the semblance of mature behavior.

Plus ca change…

EDIT: As a side note, it's utterly preposterous to see you acting in this capacity after the spectacle you gave when asked to stop swearing on ichat.
05 Jun, 2010, David Haley wrote in the 4th comment:
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Your swear filter thinks that "reassuring" is swearing… nice.
05 Jun, 2010, Cratylus wrote in the 5th comment:
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Herman van Rompuy is the quiet assassin of European democracy.
05 Jun, 2010, quixadhal wrote in the 6th comment:
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Actually, Cratylus has a valid question. HE wasn't banned, the entire population of the Dead Souls MUD was banned. So, how do the uninvolved parties who are only guilty by association get themselves unbanned?
05 Jun, 2010, Kayle wrote in the 7th comment:
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And this is a perfect example of why snap decisions based on personal feelings are never to be followed through on.
05 Jun, 2010, Asylumius wrote in the 8th comment:
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quixadhal said:
Actually, Cratylus has a valid question. HE wasn't banned, the entire population of the Dead Souls MUD was banned. So, how do the uninvolved parties who are only guilty by association get themselves unbanned?


Isn't this just the inherent nature of how banning works on IMC?
05 Jun, 2010, Kayle wrote in the 9th comment:
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Asylumius said:
quixadhal said:
Actually, Cratylus has a valid question. HE wasn't banned, the entire population of the Dead Souls MUD was banned. So, how do the uninvolved parties who are only guilty by association get themselves unbanned?


Isn't this just the inherent nature of how banning works on IMC?


Yes, which is why it's not a good solution for an individual user on a single mud with multiple people using the network regularly.
05 Jun, 2010, Cratylus wrote in the 10th comment:
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Kayle said:
Yes, which is why it's not a good solution for an individual user on a single mud with multiple people using the network regularly.


The way I handle this sort of thing on i3 is to try to come to some understanding with the person before the ban, through
general guidance, then warnings, then stern warnings, finally if nothing else works, as limited a ban as possible,
preferably just from the resource being abused, or automatically temporary (auto-unban after a week is the standard).

Then I try to reason with the person some more. The idea is to be as inclusive as possible, and as tolerant as possible.

The important difference here, though, is that the i3 rules are not enforced arbitrarily to suit my ego, but
rather enforced consistently (even against people I'd rather not enhitler) based on as fair an approach to the
philosophy of the resource as possible.

When it's done that way, I've found it dramatically minimizes the collateral damage, even when a mud-wide ban
is the option used.

-Crat
http://lpmuds.net/intermud.html
05 Jun, 2010, Kayle wrote in the 11th comment:
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Cratylus said:
The important difference here, though, is that the i3 rules are not enforced arbitrarily to suit my ego, but
rather enforced consistently (even against people I'd rather not enhitler) based on as fair an approach to the
philosophy of the resource as possible.


I tried this. It made people turn into giant bleeding vaginas because I wouldn't let them swear on ichat anymore.
05 Jun, 2010, Cratylus wrote in the 12th comment:
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Not to belabor the point, but exactly what does one do to get unbanned?

If the ban terms are non-negotiable, then may I at least know what they are?

Or are they secret terms to an ambush ban?

-Crat
http://lpmuds.net
05 Jun, 2010, Kayle wrote in the 13th comment:
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Cratylus said:
Not to belabor the point, but exactly what does one do to get unbanned?

If the ban terms are non-negotiable, then may I at least know what they are?

Or are they secret terms to an ambush ban?

-Crat
http://lpmuds.net


Rule 14 must be back.
05 Jun, 2010, kiasyn wrote in the 14th comment:
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Cratylus said:
Not to belabor the point, but exactly what does one do to get unbanned?

If the ban terms are non-negotiable, then may I at least know what they are?

Or are they secret terms to an ambush ban?

-Crat
http://lpmuds.net


3 day ban, determined by your behaviour (which has been fine so far)
05 Jun, 2010, flumpy wrote in the 15th comment:
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Wat
05 Jun, 2010, flumpy wrote in the 16th comment:
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This is lunacy
05 Jun, 2010, Katiara wrote in the 17th comment:
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kiasyn said:
3 day ban, determined by your behaviour (which has been fine so far)


Just kind of curious here … he was banned from IMC2 for his actions there. He is banned and so how does one have bad behavior when they can't connect?
05 Jun, 2010, Koron wrote in the 18th comment:
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He could connect from a different mud?
05 Jun, 2010, David Haley wrote in the 19th comment:
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Sure, and then what, they ban that MUD too…?
05 Jun, 2010, Koron wrote in the 20th comment:
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I guess. :tongue:
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