I own these two books but havent read through them yet. I am wondering if you desire to be a good C++ programmer are these books required reading?

Never heard of them, but that doesn't necessarily mean much. I would hesitate to say that any particular book is "required" reading, strictly speaking, though, assuming you actually mean required and not just recommended or useful.

Do you mean "Effective C++" and "More Effective C++" by Scott Meyers? If so I would definitely recommend them, although I wouldn't call them "required" reading.

Thanks. I have been trying to transition from being merely somewhat knowledgeable about the language features to being good with the language. I have flipped through Effective/More Effective but found them in general to contain mainly basic advice for individuals transitioning over from knowing essentials to intermediate level (there are a few nuggets I am sure I am not actually aware of). I use to own those too but cannot see myself reading them again.

You think that the 'Effective' series only contain basic knowledge? If that is the case, I think we must be operating on wholly different levels of what it means to be proficient C++ programmers. :wink:

There is another reason as well- I found a book, C++ common knowledge(classified as an intermediate level book) which seems to go over similar points to effective C++/more effective C++ but seems more tightly written and more concise. Perhaps because it's a newer book ppl. might not be familiar with it.

I am basically trying to bridge the gap from intermediate to advanced now which is why I have been looking at advanced/expert level books but I am not too sure what fits the bill.

Sorry for topic digging.

I just wanted to say that I also own Exceptional C++ and More Exceptional C++, and a couple of others by Herb Sutter, and I thoroughly recommend them to every C++ developer ever.

(Along with Effective C++, TC++PL and TC++SL)