If I'm to be completely blunt and honest. Yes, I find you to be a complete waste of time. I spend more time trying to decipher what you were trying to say, then actually reading what you typed. Not being able to type has nothing to do with how well you know the English language. Not being able to type has no bearing on this at all. You can't spell. You spell simple words wrong. Words that my 6 year old nephew can spell without fail. I'm sorry, but you're not worth me wasting any more time on.




Wait. Wait wait. You're open to ideas? Then why didn't you listen to any of the ones offered? If you've just started. Why the fuck do you need beta testers? And also. Asking for testers *IS* asking for players.



Perhaps you should consult the article quoted and decide for yourself whether you're actually Beta or not.

Ok, thats understandable. I don't think i have THAT bad of english skills…. Though I might i guess if this many people think so. I try and get my point to people the best I can. I couldn't of done that bad seeing as how you are responding pretty clear to what i've said?

Whooaaa… for the record, I never asked for players that was Dubstack. It is his mud to do what he wants with and YES, you are correct. I will try to make my point to him as best I can about this issue. We do need atleast a working world before any players come "test" at all. Thank you for the input.

Shouldn't you be asking questions about the game itself instead of your english skills? I've said this before, posting here for builders is most likely useless ;). Not a whole lot of builders hang out here. If all you walk away with this is some criticism and some time on the front page, I think you've done well for yourself ;). If someone says something you disagree with, that's fine. You can always just say "I like my colour codes, tyvm." and move on to the next point.

I like my colour codes tyvm

Heh, Yea :P I already got the main point. The world is screwed fix it, and make it alittle more original.

Dubstack, Hellion, the thing about the importance of English in relation to things such as a forum post, for instance, is that you're demonstrating to us to what extent you care about being understood, and to what extent you have respect for other people in the form of how much translation you want to force the language centers of other people's brain to perform on your messages in order to make them understandable. It's not so much that you can't be understood, but that it's time-consuming, annoying, and perhaps even painful (through mental fatigue) to do so. After all, the brain doesn't just compute information for free; it costs energy, and causes fatigue, so the consequence of bad language skills on the mind of the reader is very real. It can be very insulting to take that matter so lightly.

Anyhow, the point is that you don't need to just type as fast as you can at the expense of your legibility merely to get your forum post out as quickly as possible. Slow down, take your time, proof read your text after writing it (and not just once!), and then post. I think you will find yourself much better received if you at least show us a modicum of respect by trying to be as well spoken as you possibly can at all times.

I will also note that I myself am not an English major either. I don't even have a college education. My English competancy is the result of, aside from paying attention during my English classes back when I was in high school, simple perserverance over time. I've kept my mind open and receptive to learning more and more about English, picking up as many of the rules (grammar) and proper spellings of words as possible as I go. I strongly believe that anyone else can do the same.

Lastly, I will also note that were I currently the administrator of a game trying to hire builders, the English competancy such as what I've mentioned above is the sorts of thing I'm going to expect to see out of my builders. You should know that it further reflects poorly upon yourselves as administrators to be trying to hire builders for your game when your demonstrated English is so poor. Yes, MUDs are games and it's not always SRS BSNS, but you do need to remember that, as administrators, you represent your game to the public. If you conduct yourself poorly, it reflects poorly on your game, and vice versa.

Edit: Also, don't be afraid to edit your posts once they are posted in order to clean up the text, should you notice any typos that happen to make their way into it.

Anyhow play for 2 days be for you total judge my mud base of 5 minutes

I played that code for over a year, I don't need another 2 days to pass my verdict. Might I suggest that you erm, make a thread on TMC looking for testers players, you'll probably get a better response in that regard.

You know it really bugs me the rep that DBZ muds get around here. I understand that a slew of clones popped up over the years and dinged egos and just put a plain ole bad taste in everyone's mouth. But, honestly, there are a few of us out there that try to keep things new and keep working on our muds over the years. I came on here about 4 months ago spouting our opening and caught a little flack. But hey that's life.

Dub you need to get over yourself. Your mud is no where near what can even be considered playable and you should have taken up the offers to learn from some of the folks here. I wouldn't have had a third of the trouble I did, debugging my mud and recoding entire portions if some of these guys had offered the same to me. Listen to them. These guys have been around the proverbial block a dozen times or 3.

As far as builders, you're probably not going to get quality builders until you have a quality (ok well, semi-quality, maybe quasi-quality) mud. Builders don't want to work on their areas living in fear of a dreaded crash and what not. Get a stable code, get some base players, then you'll have the possibility of some of them being builders at heart. That's the best advice I can give you.

Man, Lobotomy, I've heard of advice falling on deaf ears before, but wow.

Well, thanks for spell-checking at least. That's a start.

Well, I did say the majority were. I know there are exceptions. Dubstack and Hellion are just proving to not be.

So…the Dragonballs are revolting are they?

I have roughly 2 and half hours logged on their mud so far… I am going to get a full 48 hours of play before I say anything about the quality of what I've seen. I will note that Hellion is very receptive and was avidly working on improving various aspects of the mud when I spoke to him. Dubstack was very helpful and answered the questions asked of him in a very legible way (surprise!). =)

Well they were, but they got tired and needed a nap.

I'd love to help Hellion but I'm not at all familiar with Circlemud. You might want to start another thread for questions of that nature…since this one has stayed on topic so well. =)

Here's a novel concept. You guys don't like Dubstack and/or his MUD? Try this: Ignore him. Yeah, I know, scary thought. Just ignore him and you won't have to deal with it. All this bickering is pointless. Go find something else to spend time on. There's plenty of other posts you could be reading, yes?

Dubstack is apparently offering to teach people, so I guess you could start there.

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I'm sorry Samson. I will stop picking on them immediately. =)